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How far would you go for loyalty?

Asked by Pandora (32436points) October 28th, 2010

When I was younger, people in my neighborhood knew that it would be a sure fight with me if anyone picked on my youngest brother or my mom or dad.
I was not the forgiving kind. Even if I got into a fight with my mom or brother, it did not give anyone indirect reason to ever be mean to either of them. (I never fought with my dad)
Even as an adult. I once gave a friend of my daughter a ride home from school. She decided to make fun of my son in the car and tell me offensive jokes that she made at him in school to belittle him.
I told her to stop before I let her out in the middle of the road. She did stop but when we arrived at my home (she lived in walking distance) she wanted to come over and play with my daughter. I told her she was not welcomed as a guest in my home till she appologized to my son. She would not and she was never welcomed at my home.
Just so we are clear. My son never even socialized with her. She just felt he was easy to pick on because he wasn’t the type to be aggressive.
I never have friends that are mean to love ones, even if they are otherwise nice to me.
For me, family first , friends second and sometimes last.
Do you feel this is outdated thinking, or is it the true meaning of loyalty?

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Berserker's avatar

I’m loyal to no one, and I expect no loyalty from anyone. Maybe I will if I ever have children, but as of now, I curse the idea of loyalty, unless it’s to myself.
Sad, but true.

wundayatta's avatar

@Pandora That seems only proper behavior to me. An honorable person does not put up with abuse towards anyone. An honorable person protects those he or she loves, and even those who are not a loved one, when they are subject to unjustified attacks. It seems to me that honorable people have no fear, because they know they have to stand up for themselves and for their families and friends and for all of those who are being attacked anywhere.

I wish I were an honorable person. I try to be. But sometimes my fears for my own safety keep me from helping others who need help. I don’t feel good about that, but I don’t think I’m going to change.

Nullo's avatar

I think that you’ve about got the idea right. It certainly doesn’t sit well with some these days, but eh. My own loyalties, in order of importance, are to my God, my family, myself, my friends, my country, and then everybody else.

Pandora's avatar

@Symbeline Why would you curse loyalty?
@wundayatta Never did think of it that way. Just thought right or wrong. But I guess it is a matter of honor as well. To have someone belittle someone you love is an indirect insult.
Although, bravery has very little to do with it. My temper will just flare up. People just learned along the way not to test my loyalties.
@Nullo, I like your line up.

Kraigmo's avatar

All things being equal, I’m very loyal.

But if a friend and a stranger are in a dispute and I know for sure the stranger is right… I’ll side with the stranger.

BoBo1946's avatar

Go girl… I’m proud of you! Family, family, and family! I’m with you all the way!

Pandora's avatar

@Kraigmo Why would you want to remain friends with a stranger?
Only kidding, I get what you are saying. You will only support the person in the right. But then aren’t you only loyal to ideas you agree with but not the person?
Don’t get me wrong. If my mother was an ax murderer and proven as such I won’t fight with people over how sweet she can be. Your love ones can sometimes be very wrong to the point where you may need to cut them loose. But I’m basically talking about others being hurtful to the people you love
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Two things I always grew up knowing to be true in my family.

Blood is thicker than water.
Friends will come and go but family is forever.

partyparty's avatar

I would always stay loyal to my family. No doubt about that.
Equally I am pretty certain they would be loyal towards me. That’s how it should be!

Cruiser's avatar

Loyalty is what makes ones world as secure as it can get. So I put a lot of weight on loyalty in all aspects of my life….but I realize people are human and will be looking out for themselves first and foremost.

wundayatta's avatar

I am loyal to my family, and I care deeply about them, but I don’t like some of them, and I resent some of the things they did to me. Still, I am loyal and I do whatever I can to help them out if they are in trouble.

CMaz's avatar

“I curse the idea of loyalty, unless it’s to myself.”

@Symbeline – Friggin ay!!!

partyparty's avatar

@wundayatta … but I don’t like some of them, and I resent some of the things they did to me
You are showing you are the better person, despite what has happened in the past. Such a lovely answer :))

Neizvestnaya's avatar

If you have an overall respectful and loving family then your mode is what I think of as ideal. In a lot of families though there isn’t the support, trust, respect blah-blah to make it safe to put them first.

As for my loyalty to loved ones, I once dismissed the sister of my husband from my friendship circle because she cheated on her husband (our bro-in-law) and he was a great friend to us. My husband’s mother didn’t understand why we would choose an in-law over “blood” and it caused a deep rift for many years. I never regretted keeping my brother-in-law as “family” and I don’t think my now ex-husband had regrets either.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

If I truly love someone, I am fiercely loyal to them. I’m not sure if it’s “loyalty” or the “mother bear instinct”, but when it comes to my husband or my kids, I would kill for them and die for them. I’m a real vindictive bitch when someone hurts my loved ones. If that’s considered “loyalty” then hell yes.

Berserker's avatar

@Pandora To me it seems that loyalty isn’t defined by the intent of its very definition, but rather by the drama and pain which issues when it is broken. It’s like how a promise is only important because it can be broken, or how a secret is only important because trust can be broken.

Joybird's avatar

For me it’s less a question of loyalty then it is a lack of tolerance for bullying. I have zero tolerance for bullying of any kind. So it really wouldn’t matter who the subject of the bullying was I’d come out swords blazing against it.

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