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Does it mean that you're a traitor if you're passing?

Asked by yungbuckie (13points) November 12th, 2010

I’ve been hearing people call their friends traitors because they’re
passing their classes. Is that true?

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LuckyGuy's avatar

That’s only said by underachievers who are failing. They are the losers.

yungbuckie's avatar

No it does’nt mean you’re a traitor it makes you see yourself better then them, or you have higher standards for yourself. Soooo, it’s not true.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

This is actually an interesting question and one that I think comes up in urban youth of color communities and signifies complexity rather than simplicity. In some ways, people who ‘want to get out of the ‘hood/projects’ are seen as traitors to their roots and communities because ‘we’re all in this together, don’t think you’re better than us’. In other ways, ‘getting out’ is a hope of many a parent for their teenagers which sends a contradictory message – a message you’re grappling with if this question applies to you. In my opinion, no, one is not a traitor if you’re passing classes because passing classes shouldn’t be seen as something ‘the privileged/majority’ people do even if our society is set up to make it easier for them than for some others.

YoBob's avatar

Traitor to whom?

Frankly, I wouldn’t be overly concerned about what a bunch of losers who can’t even pass their classes think. Keep in mind that whatever they are calling you now, in a few years the will probably be calling you “Boss”.

syz's avatar

A traitor to what? Sounds more like “I suck and I want you to suck with me”.

iamthemob's avatar

What?

Wait….....WHAT!?!?

LuckyGuy's avatar

The true traitors are those who say that to you! They want to bring you down. They are not friends.
Avoid them like the poison they are.

In the adult world they are the ones who offer:
-a drink to a recovering alcoholic.
-a piece of cake to a dieter.
-a hit to an ex-drug abuser

They do this under the guise of being “a friend”. They are slime.
Look up the word “schadenfreude” and see if you can find examples in life.
Good luck to you!

GracieT's avatar

I can’t really add anything new to the comments except for my conrats for passing the classes, so congrats!

poisonedantidote's avatar

It is only possible to be a traitor, if you take an oath in favor of one thing, and then act in favor of another opposite thing for personal gain, without warning to the original thing.

For example, If you take an oath to defen Japan from the Australians, and then sell guns to the Australians, and the Japanese only get to find out once Australians are shooting at them with the guns you sold them, then, you are a traitor.

Unless the people that are calling you a traitor, are members of an anti-education organization that you took an oath to defend, it is impossible to be a traitor simply by passing exams.

aprilsimnel's avatar

If you don’t pass your classes, you are betraying yourself. None of those naysayers are going to be around if you’re broke and you need help when you’re grown. They’re just trying to convince themselves that being on the bottom is OK. You don’t have to do that. Make choices for yourself and your own well-being. They don’t have authority over you, so don’t give them that power.

In the future, after you’ve graduated college, gotten into the career of your choice, worked hard, gotten to know the right people, and then you’re sitting in your beautiful home doing a job you like, where will they be if they keep thinking and acting the way they do? Do you want to be where they’ll be? Or do you want to live a better life for yourself?

I’m a woman, but speak from much experience, @yungbuckie. Let me put it like this: the girls who tried to put me down and call me “wannabe” and all that mess for doing well in school and being smart? Those girls have 27–28 year old children now.

We’re all in our early 40s. Do the math.

OK? So that’s where that mentality got them. I don’t live in that neighborhood anymore.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@aprilsimnel Though I do want to say that having babies young doesn’t have to mean a black mark on a person, doesn’t have to mean they’re somehow less successful. Maybe we should have this discussion elsewhere but I don’t get why people throw around teenage pregnancy like it’s leprosy.

aprilsimnel's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir – You’re absolutely right, of course. While those women are still where they are, that doesn’t happen to every teen girl who has a baby. I think I channeled my 12 year old self there for a second.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@aprilsimnel I think there are forces shaping communities where teen pregnancy is high in ways that makes it really hard for young women to be more cautious about their reproductive abilities, what do you think?

Lightlyseared's avatar

Everybody wants to pass. Nobody wants to admit it.

Mikewlf337's avatar

No, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Not calling you dumb though. Just whoever thinks that way is.

Rarebear's avatar

Huh? That’s just stupid.

cockswain's avatar

Are the students graded on a curve, and most are hoping to get an A with like 30%, so anyone who gets a good score is betraying the collective?

In any event, what @Rarebear said.

BarnacleBill's avatar

If you are flunking out, being okay with that is having lots of friends who are flunking out, too, because that means you don’t have to take responsibility for your grades. “Not my fault, man. Mike’s flunking out too.” However, if Mike’s passing his classes, that means your friend’s parents are even more justified in riding his ass about his grades.

Ultimately, you get to decide what group you self-identify with. Lazy and irresponsible is only one choice. If you see yourself living in your parent’s basement 10 years from now, and selling your blood to buy smokes, pick that one.

Ivan's avatar

What? I think your friends are idiots.

Whitsoxdude's avatar

lol.
My friend once called me a traitor for getting a B on a test.

Andreas's avatar

@yungbuckie Your friends sound like a “box of crabs” to me. All the crabs want to escape, but when one starts the attempt, the others pull it back with them. When a second crab attempts to escape, the same thing happens. Strangely enough, even the first crab is in action to pull the second crab back in.

I wish you well in your escape from the box!

nicobanks's avatar

This is about getting passing grades in school?

That is not what I expected this question to be about, with that subject line.

Are you being serious??

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