@bkcunningham What you are talking about is not faith. Rather, it is evidence-based actions. You turn the faucet because you have noticed a cause and effect relationship that almost invariably works. If it stops working, you assume there is something that a plumber can fix, not some magical hitch in the system. What you call faith is what I would call a model of the world that has a lot of evidence to support it.
Faith is a model of the world with no independently verifiable evidence to support it. I don’t know. Perhaps we should be talking about big F Faith and little f faith. The terminology gets muddled a lot because we tend to throw around words in everyday talk trusting that people will know what we mean. Mostly, we get away with it.
When we are asked to define it, any number of things might happen. We might all give a personal explanation, and we all listen, and say, “aha, there are commonalities here,” or we might look at other people’s explanations and try to pick them apart and tell them how they are wrong.
I don’t think we necessarily have a disagreement. I think it is more likely that we use the words differently, or we use them the same, except with different emphases. To resolve our apparent difference might require careful definition of terms and a lengthy discussion of all the different ways we use the term.
I think the way you use the word is shared by a lot of people. I think that I use the word that way in normal, everyday talk. It’s just how we talk about it when we don’t think too much about what we are saying.
However, lately there have been a lot of questions about believing and having faith, and I’ve been thinking about it more. I realized that I don’t like to use those words in certain contexts because they encourage people to think I think something I don’t. In other contexts, I’m perfectly happy to say I have faith and I believe this and that, because it doesn’t really matter if people think I think magic is going on.
An interesting (to me) side point here is that lately I have been experiencing a lot of magic. I have absolutely no faith in it, but it is kind of cool to see weird purple glows around things as I drive along at night. It’s weird to make guesses about people based on very little information and to find out I’m right. It is weird when I experience something very similar to what someone else is experience at exactly the same time, except we are thousands of miles apart. Makes me want to believe in ESP or magical powers, but I don’t. I’ll wait until the evidence comes in on this. I think it is likely that there are explanations I haven’t thought or heard of yet.
So I try to distinguish between two different ways of modeling the world. One is a model for which you have evidence, and the other is a model for which there is no verifiable evidence, but there are feelings and testimony as evidence. You may call the former faith, but that’s not faith to me, although I understand why you use the word.
The latter, I hope, we can both agree is faith.