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Why does it matter if Obama was accepted at Harvard on Affirmative Action?

Asked by JLeslie (65743points) April 27th, 2011

From what I have heard Trump has said something along the lines that Obama got into Harvard with not so stellar grades. I guess he is implying Obama got in due to affirmative action? Is that it? Or, is he saying Obama was accepted to Harvard by some sort of connection not on the up and up?

It seems Obama did very well at Harvard, and was President of the Harvard Law Review. Obviously he applied himself well while studying at Harvard.

What I don’t get is on TV they keep talking about high school grades, but wouldn’t his college grades, undergrad, be what is important? Who cares how well he did in high school.

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ragingloli's avatar

What he wants to insinuate is that Obama not only cheated his way to presidency, but that he also cheated to get his degrees.

JLeslie's avatar

@ragingloli Oh. I didn’t even think about it that way.

nikipedia's avatar

Pure racism. He should be ashamed of himself.

jaytkay's avatar

“Affirmative action” is one of several phrases used by conservatives because they can’t say ni**er among normal people.

mazingerz88's avatar

Obama always expresses his gratitude whenever he can that only in this country could he have become what he had become. That’s enough for me. Trump however is succeeding in his tactics to get attention. Publicity good or bad is still publicity.

JLeslie's avatar

I’m actually against affirmative action at universities, I agree with what California has done, but that is now, 25 years ago I would have been in favor of it. No matter what it was the law, the policy, so if that is how he got in, so what?

cazzie's avatar

Trump is a bully. He is mean and Machiavellian with no idea what the word ‘honour’ means. He brandishes it around, but his actions sing a different tune.

kariper's avatar

I cant believe you americans use your time on this stupidity. I doesnt matter where he was born or what grades he got in high school or whatever. The case is he is your president now, stop trying to tear him down and support him in the job his doing. Before he became your president he showed you his dreams for your country – he showed you how he wanted to make a change for America. He gave you hope. Maybe some’d say you were naive to vote for Obama. But face it; he’s one freakin’ man, he can’t change America over night – even if he wanted to. And when he became your president he had a hell of a job cleaning up after that ass of a man called Bush. This is just my opinion.

Seaofclouds's avatar

@kariper People are trying to tear him down again because it’s almost election time again and as far as I know, he will be running for a second term. What he has accomplished while in office will be irrelevant to those planning to run against him because they will only focus on the negatives. Sadly, that’s the way elections seem to go.

I personally don’t care why/how he got into Harvard. Hearing all this stuff about him getting into Harvard and his birth certificate here on Fluther makes me really glad I don’t watch the news or much television.

Jaxk's avatar

It’s just one small piece of the puzzle. Obama was built up since the campaign as this superman, incredibly smart and a cut above us mere mortals. Much of that image has deteriorated since the election but a recurring theme has been how smart he is. What if he’s not really all that smart. What if he’s just an average guy like the rest of us. Frankly I don’t care how he got into Harvard but I am weary of hearing how smart he is because of it. If he got in on affirmative action, good for him. But let go of this argument that he must know what he’s doing because he’s so smart. His actions belie that point.

Facade's avatar

Trump has never been one of my favorite people, but when he said he’s always been good with “the blacks,” I was done. I can’t believe there are people out there who see this man as anything more than a joke.
And to answer your question, it doesn’t matter.

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

1) It does not matter.

2) Judge a person on what they stand for and what they have done to accomplish their goals that are consistent with their beliefs and values.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Who can take anything that person says seriously? I guess some people do but I can’t take them seriously either. If he wants to do the whole issue with the birth certificate, he surely won’t stop with degree implications. I guess he forgot the Bush jr. actually had less than stellar grades to get in and stay through anything and only did so based on connections. Also, my mom works at Trump International and she’s cleaned his rooms and he treats his baby Barron like shit.

bkcunningham's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir seriously? Who is Byron?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@bkcunningham Fixed, I misspelled his name. It’s his son.

jaytkay's avatar

@Jaxk Smart people become president of the Harvard Law Review and teach at the University of Chicago. Dumb or even average people do not.

bkcunningham's avatar

—@Simone_De_Beauvoir the one that just got married from the show, “You are fired!”?? How long have they been married?

bkcunningham's avatar

Yeah right, @jaytkay. Tell me something else funny. You are kidding right?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@bkcunningham No, his son with his trophy wife. here

jaytkay's avatar

@bkcunningham No I am not kidding. Do you have a good reason to doubt me?

bkcunningham's avatar

Oohh, yeah. I wonder how Ivana feels about her children having a toddler to contend with. Lightweight or heavyweight? Who would win in the squid circle?

bkcunningham's avatar

@jaytkay you think only smart people write for the Harvard Law Review? Do you think any of say, the last 17 Supeme Court Judges who graduated from Harvard ever said anything stupid, or they were all smart and their wasn’t a dumb one in the mix?

flutherother's avatar

Trump should STFU and go and build a golf course somewhere, preferably not in Scotland.

bkcunningham's avatar

Where are you from @flutherother? I wish Trump had bought the Greenbrier but I’m waiting to see what happens with the new owners. Where do you play golf in Scotland?

bkcunningham's avatar

man, i just read my last post to @jaytkay. Only a few more posts before I cut myself off from celebratory posting. Ding-dong the sister is gone. Ding-dong the crazy sister is gone.

flutherother's avatar

@bkcunningham I am from Scotland but the other side of the country from the proposed new course. I don’t play golf so the new development will just spoil a lovely stretch of coastline in my view.

bkcunningham's avatar

Aww, I would hope to see that coastline one day my kinsman.

flutherother's avatar

It’s a lovely secluded walk, just sea and sand and bird cries and the sound of the wind in the grass. Golf courses, who needs them?

bkcunningham's avatar

How far could I croquet a dandilion head? If I were there, God help me, I’d have to hit something across the fog.

Jeruba's avatar

Wow, talk about thread drift.

flutherother's avatar

Sorry, I sliced it into the rough.

bkcunningham's avatar

Perchance, @flutherother, Twas a dreich day! -

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