How will the right wing twist the death of Bin Laden to make Obama look bad?

I’m sure Fox “News” will find a way.

It will clearly be a result of a violation of the Geneva Convention Art. IV…

…because “O’Liar” did it…

I’m sure they’ll have something to say about it taking him so long (since he mentioned in his statement that he got a tip about bin Laden’s location back in August).

Hmmm? I am not sure they will make Obama look bad by saying he did something wrong, or took too long. But, I think they will go back to him carrying out the Bush mission, and that Bush was right all along going to war. Their viewers will fail to connect up that Iraq was not about Bin Laden, and Bush did not out enough forces in Afghanastan or Pakistan.

That’s my guess anyway.

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Here’s what that Quran-burning crackpot minister from FL will say:

This is more proof that Obama is a radical Muslim because he has either:

1. Faked OBL’s death, so that he can sneak his Muslim brother into a secret luxury lair in the White House basement to continue their attacks on America with even more focus.

2. Killed OBL so that he can ascend to his true aspiration: the undisputed leader of all Al Qaeda.

I don’t think even FOX can pull that one off without looking kooky, even for FOX. It will be stupid but we’re discussing FOX.

If anything, I’m hoping they go about it the smart way showing that it would have been wiser to capture the old fart instead of killing him considering the fact we just Martyred him and we’re about to taste some serious revenge because we cut off the biggest head of the hydra

and I love how soon this question popped up, it’s comical really

How won’t they twist it is a better question.

It is a great day for America and ALL Americans.

@jerv

I think I picked a couple that they won’t use, unless some teabagger finds my answer and actually believes it.

@Brian1946 They will :/

@noelleptc, name one nice thing you have heard about Obama on Fox news.

Ha! Good question. Will the Birthers now all become Deathers as well. The DNA and blod evidence is faked. “Real” DNA reports don’t have turned up corners like that one they posted online. You can tell from the angle of the chadows this was filmed in the Arizona Desert and not Pakistan.

I’ve already hear that tireless right-wing apologist, David Gurgen claiming it was the result of the relentless work of President Bush and then Obama. Riiiiiight. That would be the same Mr. Bush that refused to give commanders on the ground even 1,000 soecial forces to go in and get bin Laden when we had him pinned down in Tora Bora. The Mr. Bush that wanted an Iraq war so much he deliberately let bin Laden go because killing him before the Iraq invasion would have derailed his lies about needing to pursue al Qaeda there.

Jeez. Isn’t this question doing exactly what the question is railing against? Something good happens and you find a way to twist into an attack on those you don’t like. Happy hunting.

@Jaxk No, actually telling the truth is not the same telling a lie. That argument only works for moral relativists, which right-wingers rail against except when it is convenient to become one.

They’ll say it was no big deal. Good but no game changer. That the current administration has exaggerated his importance to make us think they’ve really done something when they haven’t done much at all. That’s my bet.

@Jeruba That sounds like the Fox “News” spin. I had in mind the right-wing blogosphere, WorldNetDaily, Limbaugh, Michale Savage and that sort. They are where you find all the vileness of the true Fascist rightf

they just did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyAqgCWMtw

Good job President Obama. Well done. Thank you Mr. President. Osama, good riddance!

I’m sure they’ll say it’s faked, and the reason the body has been buried at sea is because the forensic evidence was faked and the government wants to make sure no-one can get at the body to prove otherwise.

(Note: I don’t actually believe it’s been faked, but I do think some of the more radical conspiracy theorists among Obama’s opponents will try to claim it).

From what I have seen this morning, the right is saying things like, this is not a partisan issue, or let’s not politcize this event.

@JLeslie you know exactly when they say let’s not politicize something that means let’s fucking politicize this right? Just wait till the election nears when the “real ugly” comes like a tsunami onto American political landscape. The Karl Roves and the Kochs forms of attack will be unmatched. The Democrats will never know what him em. The hope is that it backfires.

@mazingerz88 We’ll see. I tend to think they won’t do that until the left starts touting Obama got Osama as part of their campaign. Then the right will have to fight back somehow, to take away that feather in Obama’s cap.

@JLeslie Yes of course, they will pounce when Democrats do what they would have done shamelessly if it was the other way around. Meantime they will downplay anything they know they don’t have the advantage to.

@mazingerz88 We agree.

Obama bin Laden… lol silly fox

Well, as of today (May 2), the twist seems to be that Bin Laden has been dead for years and that Obama lied to us last night; that this announcement was timed and staged for political gain; and that some unknown substitute was buried at sea to cover up the switch.

@Jeruba Where is the Death Certificate? (The long form version.)

On a morning show someone mentioned that the good ol’ Drudge Report had a headline proclaiming “Obama interrupts 66th round of golf to announce…...”

I guess the smarter right wingers decided not to follow Drudge’s lead realizing that sour grapes sarcasm doesn’t play too well.

I don’t read the Drudge report so I’m assuming the quote was accurate. It sounds like something he would do but then take down when the egg on his face became obvious.

DId you really read that somewhere @Jeruba?

Yes, I did. Something like that would never would have occurred to me as a possible invention. When I look at those things I am constantly reminded of how limited my own imagination really is.

I found it on some siite that called itself the voice of conservative America or something (do they all say that?) by Googling on some combination of keywords like “Osama” and “false” and death,” forgotten now but probably not irreproducible.

Also someone on here posted something similar on one of the many related threads that have been going since last night.

@Jeruba wow, I wish you could find that source and post it here. Unbelievable.

Here’s the similar fluther post. I’ll see if I can reproduce my Google search.

[Next day] I tried all the likely combinations of search terms that I could think of, but couldn’t find that same site again. The amount of online commentary on this event has exploded in the past two days. I must have seen one of the first blogs on the subject, buried now among thousands that will all be keyed to the same search terms.

I did see plenty more postings that questioned the authenticity of the death reports, as well as various theories in several shades of screwball. I feel sure that if Obama went on the air to say it’s Tuesday, there’d be a rabid chorus of naysayers wanting to string him up as the pawn of Satan. I wonder what those folks are like to live with.

@Jeruba Stuff like this ?

Sort of, but not really. That seems fairly moderate by comparison.

No, it was some pretty strong accusatory rhetoric, under a lot of red, white, and blue bunting and with slogans splattered around, saying that bin Laden had died of natural causes in, I think, 2003 (and Bush would really have kept it quiet so Obama could take the credit??), and that the news was being released now (why not a year from now??) to help Obama’s reelection campaign and to draw attention away from the birth certificate fiasco (fiasco??) on the heels of the royal wedding, which was doing its own good job of keeping audiences occupied with soft news.

He did not go so far as to say that the royal wedding was staged to help Obama’s political position, but he did say that this announcement was delayed until after the wedding was over so as to prolong the distractions to the public and keep us from asking the really important questions about how we are being deceived by our leaders.

I’m not making this up, I swear.

You gotta give those conspiracy nuts this; they’re inventive.

@jerv what the heck was that? OMG, the photo with the story says it all to me at least. Hogwash.

@Jeruba yeah, I wouldn’t advise getting your news from a blog. No offense, but, well, you proved my point for me by not being able to locate the source. I believe my military and the President. If others don’t, well, that is there problem.

We’d better be focused on pulling together as Americans. This isn’t going to be the end of Al Queda (sp. intentional, I don’t care to spell it correctly) or the “radical” Muslims. Just saying.

Jeez, @bkcunningham, did you really read my comments to mean that I get my news from a conservative blog? I was answering the question “How will the right wing twist the death of Bin Laden to make Obama look bad?”

Leaving this thread now and not coming back.

Sorry, @Jeruba. I honestly thought that is what you said when I asked where you got the info. I asked you if it was really something you had read or something facshious. You said you had seen it. I didn’t mean to offend you. I just think people, me included (I read some crazy things too and have to decide if I believe them) need to be very careful of their source of information. Rumors and silliness get spread very easily.

Looks like the right wing think tanks have made their decision. GOPers hit the talk show circuit today with everybody armed with the same Big Lie talking points. Waterboarding is how they got OBL. It was intel they got by torture that led to bin Laden’s demise.

Really? Here’s George Bush.. Mr. Bush was in fact so confident we had actionable intellignece from waterboarding than in 2006, after all waterboarding had ended, Mr. Bush shut down the group in the CIA operation that had been hunting him.

And now, all of a sudden, it was Bush’s bravery in ordering torture and nothing else that finally paid off 8 years after the waterboarding. Rep. Peter King even claimed today that torture is a moral imperative. Presidents Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman all fought REAL wars and America NEVER tortured prisoners. But the strong-on-defense guys want us so terrified of a rag tag bunch of guys half way around the world that we adopt the tactics of strong-arm regimes. And their sales pitch is that anyone who won’t pistol whip suspects a la Jack Bauer is too pusillanimous to keep America safe.

That’s the spin.

@ETpro, are you saying, “Presidents Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman all fought REAL wars and America NEVER tortured prisoners” or did Peter King say that?

@bkcunningham I said that. We never embraced torture till the presidency of Goerge W. Bush. If it happened in isolated instances, it was never our policy. The Soviets certainly used in in WWII, but do we want to emulate Joseph Stalin?

After WWII, we put Japanese soldiers to death for having water-boarded prisoners. It is torture, and it is a war crime. It might occasionally get somebody to give you actionable intel, but we have better, more effective ways. And the damage it does to our international reputation makes it absolutely counterproductive. Our use of torture was al Qaeda’s single most effective recruiting tool.

“Obama is now the new head of Al Qaeda after having mutinied against the former leader, Osama Bin Laden…”

@jasonwiese55 Have you really seen that out there. Link, please> :-)

@ETpro Haha, no, it’s not real.

@jasonwiese55 Ah. Glad to hear it was a joke. Thanks.

Obama had to kill bin Laden. Bin Laden was present at Obama’s birth in Kenya.

btw, I love this question!

What I have been hearing the most is that he’s a “credit hog.” I wonder what they call that “Mission Accomplished” banner Bush had on that aircraft carrier?

@Judi it was actually the end of a major combat mission in the Persian Gulf for the men and women aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln where President Bush gave the speech.

@bkcunningham ; I know that, although I didn’t know the name of the Ship. What I’m saying is, that Bush was grandstanding about something that wasn’t real, while Obama has been quite solemn about what he did which was really something, yet they are calling him a “credit hog.”

@Judi That’s partisanship for you.

Here’s a list of some radical right spins according to the SPLC.

Nice try, @bkcunningham. Of course, if you listen to the speech, it is beyond clear you are spinning and it was not just a thank you to the men and women of the Abraham Lincoln.

@Brian1946 Wow. Good find. When they spin constantly in BS, they tend to drill their way deeper and deeper into it. The race to the bottom continues.

“A few years ago these kinds of claims were called schizophrenia, now they’re political discourse.”

Too true…