In what ways do you think the US relationship with Pakistan will or should change, now that it seems obvious they knew where Bin Laden was hiding?
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May 3rd, 2011
Of course, officially they are saying they did not know where Bin Laden was. However, the location of where he was hiding was not far from the Pakistani military base so it seems they could not know.
How do you think our relationship with Pakistan should change, now that they were knowingly hiding our enemy?
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What Osama did might very well have been a case of “hiding in plain sight”. Who would expect Bin Laden to hide right next to a military base? Who would expect any criminal hiding right next to a police station?
Who says they did? He was hiding next to their version of West Point. There’s no telling what they knew and when they knew it. He might just have been crazy like a fox, hiding where no one would think to look for him.
We should have stopped pretending that Pakistan was stable and that their government was largely on our side a long time ago.
It’s a case of we “know” but they feel they have plausible deniability.
I’m sure we can find ways for all the money we’re propping them up with to slow down to a negligible trickle.
They’ll know why and so will we but calling them liars openly will most likely not prove useful.
The fact that we kept them in the dark about the entire raid plans speaks for itself. Likewise, the fact that they aren’t squawking loudly about our incursion into their sovereign territory also speaks for itself.
I guess it’s the old fashioned “Mexican standoff” ( whatever that means).
I don’t think it makes sense to talk about what “they” knew, as if the Pakistani intelligence and military communities were monolithic.
It’s always been obvious that elements of the ISI are cozy with the Taliban, and probably with al-Qaeda, that both groups have probably to some extent infiltrated the military. But the military also undertook a massive operation to fight Taliban-allied rebels in the Swat valley.
The truth is that Pakistan is a few explosions away from being a failed state, and maintaining a semblance of cooperation with them might be better than the alternative. Though I don’t think we should give them billions of dollars in aid anymore now.
I think the word seems is crucial in your question. I don’t particulary know much about U.S.-Pakistan relations so I’m no expert but nothing needs to change until we have evidence. Of course, in these games, no one cares about evidence.
I’m willing to bet aid will be reduced significantly. If you area US taxpayer this article will / should make you sick . ~$10 Billion in aid with only about $1 billion making to the military and used as intended.
There is nothing new here. Uncle Sam has long been propping up so called alliances with money since time immemorial, does not matter whether they are sincere or not. Whatever works is the mantra here. We have our own agenda and we will pursue it to the hilt.
Oops! They invaded the wrong country…
@HungryGuy
Well it certainly wasn’t the first time THAT happened, was it :)
Pakistan has a fledgling new democracy, after many years of military rule, where the military was in cahoots with US intelligence services. It would behoove us to keep that in mind before stating speculation as facts.
I would suggest that we continue to fund aid to the newly democratically elected Pakistani government and NONE of it to the military! This will bring all rogue elements of the military into the fold of the ‘People’s say’, so to speak.
it would also serve us well to remember that more Pakistani civilians and military personals have made the ultimate sacrifice fighting terrorists/talibans then the rest of the worlds casualties combined!
If and how the US continues to fund aid to Pakistan in the future will speak volumes as to where our priorities lie and who we are siding with! the rest is just going to be grandstanding and a dog & pony show.
Apprehension of the (top) secret service agents who knew is a must. They must be tried in Pakistan. The US should insist on that.
AGREED! Here here @mattbrown! :)
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