Does the advice a man receives from another man, always have more value than the advice given by a woman?

This hasn’t happened to me, thank god, though women still are considered inferior in some ways. It has gotten way better than it was a long time ago, but sometimes it still seems there are gender-typical stereotypes around.
For example, in the Catholic church women aren’t allowed to be priests. They are allowed to do so in Lutheran churches, but not in the catholic church. Also, women have never been presidents of the US, and some jobs have very many women in them, while others have very few. In Islamic nations, women wear headscarves, whether or not they wish to do so. Women are also typically thought of as the “child raisers” and are often thought to be subservient to the husband. This isn’t always true, but it often is.
Sexism has been disappearing, but it is still present- usually subtly.

This is not just a woman/guy thing….I have the same problem with my kids. I tell them my thoughts and it is completely ignored but the exact same advice from a doctor or teacher is embraced as Gospel. I now realize I must sound like the Peanuts parents….“wuaaa.. wuaaa..waa…wua!”

Giggling here @Cruiser, I can so, so relate!!

I have never been accused of this, but I have been on the other side of this and it is very frustrating.
In a past life (relationship), I would be asked to weigh in on something and give my feelings, thoughts, recommendations. It would most often end in a disagree or denial that my opinion, thought was correct.
The frustration came in that if the same thing I stated came from someone else, read somewhere in a book, or told by someone else, then it would be believed or agreed with.
So I don’t think it strictly related to men doing that to women.
It is a matter of if the two can be in general agreement or even give the other person the potential thought that they have half a brain.
Very frustrating no matter where it comes from.

I think it has more to do with people not listening to the people closest to them more than a gender thing. We take the people closest to us for granted, get annoyed with them trying to tell us what to do, tune them out at times.

I would say it all depends on the circustances involved. My wife’s brother had me “checked out”, before he gave his okay for us to date. I was the only male that met her brothers approval.

I have also said, that if you want to know all about a person you are about to ask for a date, then ask his/her friends. They will tell you the truth.

In relationships where a woman is not considered an equal or her opinion is of little value…yes, I have seen this happen. Lots of times. I agree with @blueiiznh…this sort of treatment is gender-less. It happens to both sexes…when one partner doesn’t really value/respect the other’s opinion. At times, it is also used when the offended partner is actually more clever than the one who is devaluing them….as a power play.

All. The. Time. It drives me UP the wall.

Worse, it isn’t just when it comes from another man. One of my friends can say it and he suddenly believes it or thinks it is a great idea. He has even said, “Call Friend A and see what she thinks.” WTF???

@DarlingRhadamanthus stated the key word. R E S P E C T, or lack there of.

@DarlingRhadamanthus Yes, our therapist says it is an expression of feeling inferior.

@blueiiznh I do agree it isn’t just male to female behaviour. I also agree it is very frustrating! Thankfully it doesn’t happen to me TOO often in the case of my husband (it does happen though).

I think you are spot on @JLeslie too. :-)

@28lorelie, interesting historical information. Thank you.

@john65pennington, I should ask my husband what he thinks, ignore what he says and THEN ask his friends and take what they say as gospel.

@DarlingRhadamanthus, I agree it can also be used as a power play. I have experienced that in the past myself (not in this relationship).

Lol @Supacase I feel your pain!

I don’t think that it’s about the sex of the speaker as much as it is about what one thinks that another might know by situation.
When I have doubts about the suitability of my appearance or attire for a given event, I go to my mom. Car trouble is most likely going to be discussed amongst the guys at work. This is because Mom has proven to be a reliable source of information about what looks good. The guys at work are pretty handy, mechanically, and one of them moonlights as a mechanic.

That makes sense too @Nullo.

That stems from many reasons, I think. When I hear advice (from anyone, gender be hanged) based on feeling and intuition and conjecture – and we’re talking about something that isn’t based on emotions and feelings, then I prefer the “more mechanically sound” advice. (And we have many female engineers and department heads here; when they speak, I listen.)

But if the advice I’m looking for is more of an emotional / spiritual / empathic nature, then I’ll listen to whoever gives the better advice (and “reasoning” for the advice) in that case. (And I know some men who give good “feelings-based” advice, and can back up the reasons why they give that advice, even if the “reason” isn’t strictly logic-based.)

If it’s a question of grammar, parts of speech or sentence diagramming or deconstruction, then I defer to Jeruba, of course. Most of the time.

It’s not that it has more value, it’s that it’s more man point of view. Same concept as a kid not listening to his/her parents, but the kid will listen to another person’s parents or just another person in general. Some men just don’t want the lady to be right, and have to hear it from another penis-bearer for it to sink in.

@MacBatman31 That is a guy just being a dickhead:

@blueiiznh and that is a lot of guys…

I can’t say for all men but I don’t think my ex husband processed 100 words I said in 14 years, and I might be overestimating the number. To be fair, I’m not sure he processed anyone else’s advice either so he’s an equal opportunity ignorer. XD

As someone previously stated, this is not a “man/woman” thing…it’s more like a relationship or “familiarity thing”. Kinda like, “who are you to be giving me advice?”

Not to bring religion into this, but I understand Jesus had the same problem.

“Isn’t that Joey’s boy? Heard he was a bit loopy…”

I don’t think it’s a gender thing necessarily. He may hear you, but still have an idea of his own. Then your idea gets seconded by someone else he values, Now his original idea is in the minority and he’s more ready to accept yours. You might think of it as warming him up to seeing the “right’ answer. He wouldn’t have heard his friend either if you hadn’t mentioned it first. Maybe. Don’t fuss about it unless he comes to absolutely the wrong conclusion.

Had it happen to a few times. The alternate version is when the person comes back and shares your advice as if it was something they thought up all by themselves.

Always found that to be rather amusing.

There are some women who blabber and nag so much, their menfolk become deaf to what they have to say to them, so when another man gives advice to him, he will take it more seriously and listen more attentively than advice given to him by a woman. Also, a man may accept advice given to him by another man, because he believes that guy “knows” how he feels, and understands that, as a man too, he will have gone through a similar ordeal.

@MRSHINYSHOES I think some jellies should receive bonus lurve for well thought out responses. Well said, sir.

Maybe this is another side of “mansplaining”- men are automatically seen as experts, but women are not. And ignoring advice from a woman, to take the same advice from a man, is just as stupid as explaining something when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

I’ve always valued any advice given to me my by women friends more than that by fellas.
Maybe that’s because I have way more female mates, or perhaps it’s because they’re not thick as shite!

Then there’s communication styles. Not entirely relevant to the example provided, but men and women do not think or talk in quite the same way. Thus, a guy might better grok a message from another guy than he would the same message from a girl.

Thank you everyone for your responses here. Some interesting things for me to think about. This doesn’t happen very often in my house, but it does happen occasionally. Appreciate the insight.