Will Hillary Clinton challenge Obama for the democratic nod in 2012?

You know I really wanted Hillary, and I have a fantasy that somehow she gets to run 2012, but alas it seems it is only a fantasy. I can’t see it actually happening.

I highly doubt it. She´d still be a much better candidate then any of the republican candidates but I really don´t think she´ll actually go for it.

Nope…political suicide. She would have to switch parties and finally declare Bill as a lecherous douche-bag husband that would kill some lucrative book deals they now enjoy!

@Cruiser . . . I’m talking about her challenging Obama for the Democratic nomination. There is no rule that says they have to nominate Obama. She can campaign against him for the Democrat’s nod.

@Blondesjon – I said the same thing, only in complete disbelief. People cry racism constantly but when push came to shove, the black man beat the white woman and I definitely think it was sexism!

Anyhow, I think more and more people who were Obama’s loyalists are losing faith. I can see her getting the nomination and maybe this time she would win. But alas any republican with a dick or dick republican would probably beat her because I don’t think the sexism has diminished in the last 4 years. And personally I don’t much care if Bill plays around, I would still like to see him sitting in the oval office discussing with Hillary the next step in any arena.

We can hope anyhow, it does spring eternal you know!

No. There may not be an official rule that she can’t challenge him, but there’s sure an unwritten, unofficial rule saying that you do not challenge a incumbent party member, because this is their time – especially when as a member of their cabinet, you’re supposed to be on the same team and 100% supportive of them, not just technically a member of the same party but still an opponent. She wouldn’t get party support, and support would be divided amongst two candidates when it should be focused on beating the Republicans. She’d have to quit her current post as Secretary of State, and that’d start things out on a bad foot. I’d love to see her run again in 2016 or 2020, but she has less of a chance of winning in 2012 than she did in 2008.

No. She’d only run if the decided not to. She certainly would challenge Biden if he also wanted the nomination.

@jonsblond exactly and read my answer! She is way too entrenched to even begin to rock the boat that way!

I got a lot of shit for pointing out that Hillary Clinton was right about a lot of the disagreements that marked the 2008 primary debates, but the last few years have pretty much been my argument playing out before my eyes. Obama promised things that no one with a remotely clear vision of the military and political realities should have promised. The circumstances just weren’t right for the sort of idealism his political machine runs on, meaning it was inevitable that he would disappoint his base over and over again.

That said, I doubt Clinton will challenge Obama in 2012. The path to victory is unclear, the resultant battle might hand the election to the Republicans regardless of who won the primary challenge, and a primary loss would mean Clinton was dead in Democratic politics.

Dear god let’s hope not. Better if we had a Chinese President than Hillary. Vote for Trump!!!

I hope the hell not. I detest thet B&*%$

I don’t think it was primarily sexism against Hillary, I think the media, including Oprah, looovved Obama. He just simply was the golden child during that election, I will never understand it.

I do have one question, has there ever been a black president in any other industrialized nation that has a majority of white people? Or, any country at all whose majority is white?

I think it probable that she could snag the nomination (remember, the dems have also been listening to the people and the people aren’t as gung-ho toward the current honcho and though they may not publically rally ‘round her, they don’t want to slit their own throats either) and I think it possible she could win since the reps (to date) haven’t found their true ‘gitter dun’ champion..

@JLeslie “I will never understand it. I think the media, including Oprah, looovved Obama. He just simply was the golden child during that election,”

I think I understand why Oprah pumped up Obama daily. Aren’t they both black?

Didn’t Mandela reach the Presidency of South Africa? If not predominately white, S. Africa is surely predominately white insofar as who holds the reins of power.

No for at least two reasons. First, it is too late too start campaigning and secondly, she is too closely tied to Obama to offer much of an alternative. We need a progressive challenger, someone like Bernie Sanders or Russ Feingold (those two have said that they are not running).

@LostInParadise

“We need a progressive challenger, someone like Bernie Sanders….”

I don’t think I’d have any problem living in the United States of Vermont. ;-)

@Donald_Trump I believe Mandela won in a democratic election, majority vote. The white people in South Africa are very much the minority.

Oprah knew Obama, because her home is in Chicago, and she liked him from the start of his political career. That he is black probably had something to do with her actually being willing to show support for him. I do not think she would put her voice out there for a poltician is she also did not feel he really is special.

Also the Kennedy’s supporting Obama was a shocking dissappointment.

Really does it matter when congress won’t play along?

I really don’t know what Obama can do for our country beacause Rep/Dems don’t play nice. I think if Hillary wants to put a Republican in she will run against Obama. look what happened last time we had republican president, house and senate, oh sorry that was a set up to blame Democrats for the failures in our country so we can all believe Obama did all this and go to polls and vote republican.
Really I want to puke to see the ignorance in our country, when you go to vote just ask yourself “What have you done good for all the people of America ” and then vote.

Great set of answers @lizardking and that about takes it all in. If you ask yourself, “What have you done good for all the people of America?” The vote then would be a resounding “NONE OF THE ABOVE!”.