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Was it a lucky coincidence or karma, the downing of a US helicopter?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) August 10th, 2011

A RPG manages to hit a helicopter and bring it down with 22 members of the SEAL team six, the group that killed Osama Bin Laden. They said they would avenge the death of Osama, did they? It would be easier dropping a ping-pong ball into the sunroof of a moving car from a freeway overpass, than hit a helicopter with an RPG in the middle of the night at distance. Some people say it was mere coincidence and luck they hit it, with many SEAL members from the group that killed Bin Laden, onboard. Others think it was Karma, or something else. Which side of the fence you lean on, luck & coincidence, or karma?

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Prosb's avatar

It’s just coincidence. I like the idea of karma, however I’m sure many soldiers have killed many people. For a single life to make an RPG go straight and true to it’s intended target would mean in the daytime, an RPG has an extremely high chance of taking out any military helicopter.
I just doubt karma would make one life, killed in the same way as many others, weigh so much more when it came to getting your just desserts.

Bill_Lumbergh's avatar

I can tell you for a fact, being deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan; military helicopters are fired on about six times more frequently than any other means of transport for US soldiers. There’s no way to protect a helicopter as big as a Boeing CH-47 Chinook from an RPG-7 rocket other than flying unpredictable paths at very high speeds. (Which the CH-47 helicopter is not designed to do) Not to mention, if the insurgents were close to the CH-47 during takeoff or landing it would make the helicopter an easier target.

Regardless, slow-moving military transport aircrafts are unable to sustain flight if hit by machine gun fire or an RPG-7, and might as well of had a giant bull’s-eye painted on them with an “aim here” sign attached. Everyone on-board that Chinook knew the risks and the dangers of being in a combat zone while catching a ride in a highly targeted transport that day. America understands the enemy got very, very lucky that day, but we will continue to fight the war on terrorism and refuse to back down even after such a tragic loss. (fallen but never forgotten)

Pandora's avatar

I look at it this way. Seal members are always lucky to make it back alive. Why do you think they recruit all the time? Death, injuries, retirement, and wear and tear are what most of them get for their skills. They are extremely lucky if they make it to retirement fully functioning.
Their luck just ran out that day.
However, I think this is why the media does not need to be clued into every stinken operation that our military does. It solely jeopardizes lives of our military men. I think the information we gave about how the operation went down only made our helicopters a bigger target than usual.
Our military doesn’t need to worry about spies. We blab everything on our tv sets for ratings.

wundayatta's avatar

Is someone suggesting that it was friendly fire that took out that Chinook? That someone wanted to silence the SEALS involved in the Bin Laden operation?

AstroChuck's avatar

Karma is like the Easter Bunny. It doesn’t exist.

flutherother's avatar

You might as well ask if it is karma that the insurgents who shot the Chinook have themselves been killed

Pandora's avatar

@AstroChuck Nah, karma does exist but not in this case. An example of karma, would be if you are really nice to everyone else except this one person, and then one day you need Only that person to help you out and they don’t, then that’s Karma.
If however you’re the bully in school who beats on all the new kids, then eventually you will run into that one kid who will manage to beat your butt. Then it was no longer karma. You were putting yourself in harms way every time you would decide to pick a fight. It was bound to happen. If not with that kid then maybe the next.
I know some would think both would be karma, but with the first one I feel the level of coincidence is higher than the second. I would be less likely to happen so it would seem more like karma.

Prosb's avatar

@Pandora That first one sounds more like irony than karma. Although I guess you could say it’s irony caused by karma, haha.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@flutherother Smells like Vietnam to me. The nepalm would drop, the smoke would clear there was a report of X amount of VC KIAs. There was usually hardly any proof, but to the US public, it sounded good.

flutherother's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Drones would have observed everything from the sky so it may well be true but let’s not forget that all news from Afghanistan comes via the US military. There is no independent reporting as there was in Vietnam.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@flutherother Which makes it even more suspect…...

filmfann's avatar

If I were running this war, I would rain holy hell down on the area where that helicopter was downed.
Then let’s decide how Karma rolled.

flutherother's avatar

@filmfann That area is now full of American troops.

Broadwit's avatar

It was a lucky coincidence. No Karma. A soldier is ready to do his duty and if necessary die for his country.

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