So here’s something I learned today. He thinks that the term “pretty” is an extreme. Like someone else would say incredibly beautiful, that’s how he takes the word pretty. Different perspective than mine, certainly. Remember the “one to ten” scale that people would use about looks? In my mind, I think of pretty as being about an 8. In his mind it’s a 9.5.
The other thing I struggle to completely understand is that he doesn’t separate how he sees me into looks, personality, heart, mental capacity, etc. He says that when he looks at me he sees the “whole package”, not just what I physically look like. I don’t quite understand because I can step back and look at him like I did when we first met and think, “Yes, he’s good looking.” And he did say that he wouldn’t have continued to have gone out with me if he hadn’t found me reasonably physically attractive.
I tried to tell him how his statement, “I don’t date people for their looks. If I did, I wouldn’t be with you,” made me feel. (This was several years ago that he said it.) I know that he meant that he found there was more to me to love than just looks. I, yet again, failed to be able to clearly explain to him that it felt like he was saying, “I’m dating you in spite of your looks.” He tells me that I twisted his words. I’m willing to admit that I heard something negative along with something positive, but he cannot admit that there was anything even potentially negative in that statement.
I’m going to try to respond to some of the things in your posts. Everyone was so helpful and I don’t want any of you to feel ignored!
@Hypocrisy_Central “The issue you identified, is it a real issue or one you made and issue?” Both. the self-esteem thing if a me-made issue. His lack of rarely recognizing anything physically positive about me is a real thing.
@JLeslie – It hasn’t been so much what he says as what he hasn’t said or won’t say. I am distinctly not his physical “type.” He likes tall, long legs, dark hair, olive skinned women. I am 5’1”, 27 inch inseam, currently dark red hair and I’ll burn way before I ever tan. Yes, we have sex. Oddly, that part is fine. I do some mental work to shut down the negative “voice” in my head, otherwise it wouldn’t be. I just can’t constantly make it stop. “He comments on other women’s beauty and not yours?” It’s very rare for him to remark about a woman’s looks, so when he does, I know it means something really caught his eye about her. He never does it in a lewd, lascivious, mean-spirited or hurtful way. And he does go looking for pictures of specific actresses/celebrities via the internet. Not often, but he does. I told him today that it takes a certain amount of effort to do that and that if he could put some of that effort towards noticing & remarking on something nice about how I look, it would help. It won’t solve the issue, but it will help a bit. I also promised to not “discount” anything nice that he did say.
@marinelife – “In any case, you could benefit at this point from couples therapy.” Yes, we could, but that isn’t going to happen. I’m considering trying to find another therapist. However, I’m also considering trying CBT online.
So, I have lots to ponder. And I need to change my perspective on some things. Gah! I hope I’m up for this and that it’s worth it. Right now, all I can think about is getting the sheets on the bed and getting some rest. Thanks, jellies.