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Ltryptophan's avatar

May Christians perform auto-enucleation, or elect it professionally?

Asked by Ltryptophan (12091points) August 14th, 2011

As a Christian do I have the right to elect this surgery for religious reasons?

Matthew 18:9

Of course the reasons why they may not personally would be a consequent restriction of “freedom”. Namely, they’d be locked away for being insane.

I think I’ll keep my eyes, and take my chances but hypothetically…

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Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

There are still doctors who won’t do procedures that aren’t medically necessary. But, of course, there are those that will. And there are doctors who believe in the Bible more than they believe in the hippocratic oath so I’m guessing it can happen. Futhermore, if a person wants to gouge out their eyes, I say let them do it.

Lightlyseared's avatar

I think that taking the bible literally has caused enough bother with out you adding to it. Don’t you think?

faye's avatar

How do you have one sinful eye? Something lost in the original translation, I’ll bet.

YoBob's avatar

You seem to be selectively ignoring that whole forgiveness and redemption thing that was central to the teachings of the big JC.

jaytkay's avatar

Which Christians? Opinions differ among them on, ummm, everything.

marinelife's avatar

Are they not defiling the body which God graced them with?

Ltryptophan's avatar

@YoBob I’m not ignoring anything. If you have more to say about the opinion you give there, please do. How can one be repentent and keep that thing which most creates sin? Cast it out so it doesn’t cause more trouble. I think it is clear.

Hibernate's avatar

It’s all about how you interpret it. I believe it refers to not wanting to stick around those things that cause you to fall. If something is bad you should not let it stick around you too much or else you’ll end up doing something wrong.
If internet is bad for somene, he should ask a friend to make up a password and not share it so he can’t end up seeing porn or any other things that may cause addiction.
Is booze is bad for someone then he shouldn’t stay around bars.
I think you get the point.

If we’d literally took an eye out we’d be one eyed people and yet we’d still mess up.

Ltryptophan's avatar

@Hibernate If we’d literally took an eye out we’d be one eyed people and yet we’d still mess up

I think you’re getting somewhere with that statement. Where is the line of exception, surely all my parts are beleagured with sin!!! Off with my head…no!?

Certainly not.

the100thmonkey's avatar

I would suggest that it’s the brain that instantiates the sin, rather than the eye (which is arguably part of the brain anyway).

Why don’t you just be done with it and have the brain completely removed?

The answer is to reject Biblical literalism.

zenvelo's avatar

If one is to be literal, on e must do it oneself, not impose it on another.

That being said, consider Matthew as using an extreme example to show how one must shun things, people, and circumstances that cause or tempt one to sin. But the concept of sin is one of personal responsibility; a sin caused by something external is still one’s own responsibility.

The idea of auto-enucleation is antithetical to the concept of treating the body like a temple: A respectful Christian is obligated to care for the body, not disfigure what God has made.

Ltryptophan's avatar

at least we all know what enucleation is now…

wundayatta's avatar

If what you see causes you to sin (i.e., blame the victim and avoid personal responsibility), then get rid of your eye. Better that than sin some more.

But which eye? Both eyes look at the same thing. Both eyes are necessary to see things in 3-D. How can you know which eye is the culprit, unless you walk around with one eye closed all the time.

What’s interesting is that you are not at fault. It’s your eye causing all the sinning. If you get rid of the eye, you won’t sin no more, right?

Unfortunately, you can’t separate eye from vision and vision from thought, so if you really want to stop being tempted by the things you see, you have to get rid of your sight, itself. Pretty nasty, eh?

Anyway, if I wanted to excise an eye, I’d prefer to have it done under anesthetic by a trained professional. I doubt if Christians really need worry about how it’s done. Just whether it’s done.

josie's avatar

The scripture seems to say that you may do it, but it says nothing about getting somebody else to do it for you. I figure you are on your own.
What would somebody use in that case. A spoon? Hot dog tongs?

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