What do you think about the Fox News Latino section?

I think the latino community is going to listen to the spanish channels for news. They are barking up the wrong tree. Those latinos who already listen to English speaking channels for news, are already either listening to fox or some other channel for news.
Those who do not speak english so well will stick to the spanish news stations they already know.
Now if fox, bought those channels then there may be a problem. (Please don’t tell Fox)

First of all….we are not all lemmings needing to be “indoctrinated” by Fox or anyone else. I don’t listen to any major media stations and when I do, I happen to know that all of it is biased one way or another toward either of the major parties. The truth is not at NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX…or UNIVISION. Some of us Latinos actually can think for ourselves! What a concept! We read Shakespeare and Yeats and Proust! What a concept!

All media is controlled by a handful of corporations with their own agendas.

Non-Latinos, by the way, are just as susceptible to “indoctrination” (using your word). Just because Latinos speak Spanish_doesn’t make them uneducated and naive to media manipulation…not any more than say, WASPs or Ladies Who Lunch.

And after this Latina gets her Phd, I’ll let you know how that worked out for me or if I was just “indoctrinated” because as a Latina, I have had no mind of my own. Thanks.

Just another method of increasing TRP.

I think it makes pefect business sense, but it is not fully functional in Spanish. The home page of the Latin Link is basically a Spanglish page, if you click for Spanish the English disappears, it does not get translated.

@DarlingRhadamanthus I don’t think the OP was trying to say Latinos are idiots. I am pretty sure he thinks the American non Hispanics who watch Fox are indoctrinated also.

I just went back to the page and it seemed when I first clicked on Spanish it did not fully upload. What I find odd is the top story actually changes to a different story that they I guess think is more pertinent to the Latin community, instead of tanslating the English top story.

@DarlingRhadamanthus That was not the point I was making at all. @JLeslie understood me perfectly. In addition to targeting white idiots, they are looking for ways to target Latino idiots. I could give two shits about your ethnicity or education.

Further, who are the idiots giving you GAs for your hysterics? I never implied anywhere, ever, online or in real life, that Latino people are any less intelligent than anyone else on the planet.

Smart is what it is. Karl Rove kept saying without the Latino and Hispanic vote, the Republicans will have trouble. They would probably target those Latino-Hispanic-Americans who can vote and tend to support amnesty and sway them to change their minds. I haven’t heard Rubio’s stance on immigration but since the Republican party loves him, then that’s clear enough. The Repubs would not mind more American Hispanics to come out against amnesty. They know it’s their best bet.

Something about the logo they are using irks me, the way they write “latino” in some sort of action font. But so much about Fox is about flashy graphics and lots of on-screen movement to keep the attention of people who like shiny stuff.

Oh, there is a method to their madness, you see.

Whatever Rubio’s stance is, he is Cuban. Cubans become legal under asylum when they reach our shores. Their immigration problem is nothing like the rest of Latin America. He can easily ignore immigration as an issue, if allowed to, the way other citizens of America seem to do. FL is not knee deep in the issue like AZ, TX, or California. The one group who does have an issue in FL is the Haitians who feel they should have asylum.

Rubio is an American, @JLeslie. He was born in Miami.

@bkcunningham I know he was born in Miami. Please, you do know what I mean don’t you? He couldn’t be a senator if he was not American. I don’t care if he was born here or naturalized, he is as American as me in my opinion. His parents were Cuban exiles. Fine Cuban-American, better?

I think this would be a hard sell to the Latino community. We’ve already got Telemundo, Univision, TV Azteca, and local news stations that dominate the latino news market, what kind of niche would FNN fill? I imagine FNN would only be able to fill in news from stateside, which will be insufficient because the other stations are more pan-american in coverage since they have to appeal to central and south americans as well as Mexicans.

I also thing demographics and political alignments are going to be issues. Though Latinos are heavily Roman Catholic which would assume they lean to the right, from what I noticed they tend to be pretty left on certain socioecnomical issues: They tend to be more sympathetic to things like immigration, and workers rights. How is Fox News going to sell their xenophobic borderline racist views to a demographic that they tell their usual listeners is “The problem with america”?

Better yet, how are the ultra-conservative white people going to react to the pandering to the hispanic vote?

I think they are just trying to attract them. No other mainstream news site that I’ve personally seen has a “latino” section. Let’s say a Latino reaches an age at which he/she decides to start following current events. S/he watches a few channels, looks at their sites, and notices one of them has a “latino” section. “Well, how thoughtful, they must care about my culture” said person thinks. And at an age an which this person is unaware of media bias, particularly that of Fox, ignorantly just starts mainly using Fox as a news source. Voila, Fox has grabbed a few Latino votes.

Possibly Fox isn’t worried about the xenophobic, ultra-conservative viewers at all. Likely they just won’t look at that section. The few that are pissed about it will likely be ignored. From Fox’s perspective, it’s a net win. IMO.

@cockswain CNN has an International and Mexico option, but of course that is different than Latino in America. Do none of the other sites have a Spanish option? Which also would not be the same as a Latino section. I have to ask my husband what he thinks (he is Mexican). I don’t know if I would want to be separated out on a news site like that if I am American, I would very much appreciate an option for my first language.

@cockswain…Thank you for the endearing compliments. I know now that I am definitely on the right track.

Me encanta el Latino de Noticias Fox News. Fox es justa y equilibrada y es una fuente muy buena noticia. No entiendo por qué alguien tiene un problema con Fox o la fuente que se decidió a utilizar para escribir Latino. Si yo pudiera poner una fuente diferente en este mensaje que lo haría. Me encanta que el hombre @cockswain, pero… really.This fue una mala pregunta. Usted puede hacer mejor que esto

@bkcunningham Why is it a bad question?

Curious, would you prefer to simply have a Spanish translation button on the site, rather than a Latino version and different news articles targeted at Latinos? Why do you want to be sectioned out? Rather than just be included as bilingual Americans? It to me is like having a black Fox, or a Jewish Fox, it feels a little odd to me. I still haven’t asked my husband his opinion, which I am curious about also.

Where I live I don’t have any Spanish stations through regular cable, I find it stunning. There is like 20 minutes on one station in the middle of the night. Anyway, I like to be able to see the news in Spanish on Telemundo or Univision at times, especially when something is going on in Latin American that I want to keep up with. So, I can understand wanting to watch something not just in Spanish, but also targeted for that audience and their interests, but still it just rubbed me the wrong way a little.

As a side note, I still don’t understand how anyone can think Fox is balanced? Do you mean all the programming? Or, just whatis supposed to be the news, like the morning shows or something? Fox freely admits they had to counter the “liberal media.” meaning give their slant on things basically.

Does @cockswain even speak Spanish?

I speak some Spanish. @bkcunningham, if you think Fox presents a balanced view of the news you are terribly mistaken. I can prove that they are so far right that there really is no liberal mainstream equivalent to them. I doubt you’d take the evidence I’d show you as valid and would argue me every step of the way. But to most people who aren’t far right, a simple look at their headlines makes it pretty obvious.

I resent that you’d say my question was bad. I also think it’s obnoxious of you to assume I speak Spanish.

@cockswain I was wondering since @bkcunningham wrote the whole paragraph in Spanish. But, I figured my answer responded to her points enough that you could figure the gist of her answer. She did say she more than likes you (encantar) actually usually translated as love, not in the romantic way, although a little odd is I thought the word encantar is only used for objects not people, but it might vary by country, or I might just have it wrong. Me gusta la casa (I like the house) me encanta la casa (I love the house).

Siehe, wenn wir einen Latino Fluther hatte, würden Sie nicht für jeden zu interpretieren, @JLeslie. Aber wie dem auch sei, bitte, beweisen mir, dass Fox News ist “so weit richtig, dass es wirklich keine liberalen Mainstream entspricht ihnen.” Jetzt, da ich gearup für meine erste rebuttl Sie, ähnlich wie ein Schachspiel, weiß nur, ich rede “news” nicht redaktioneller und Kommentar. Und Sie wissen, ich bin nur albern und spielen mit Ihnen richtig, @cockswain?

@bkcunningham Can we go back ro why you pointed out Rubio is American? It really pissed me off how you wrote that. I felt like you were implying to the thread that I was trying to say Rubio is not American so his opinion does not count? I pointed out his national background and the concerns of Florida, and why his opinions on immigration might be more in line with the right wing than a Mexican, excuse me Mexican-American, candidate. Not all Hispanics are alike, the cultures vary, and their circumstances in their mother countries and their circumstances in the US vary.

Oh, I forgot to respond to that @JLeslie. I apologize. No, when I told you Rubio is an American. I was responding to your remark that he is Cuban. I just wanted to clarify that he is American. Born American. I’ve heard him talk about his parents and their journey to Florida from Cuba. He is very proud. Anyway, my remark wasn’t that deep to be honest. I didn’t know if you knew his background.

@bkcunningham It’s a conversation I’ve had many times and I don’t want to start a long discussion on Fox (even though I implied I did). I’ll tell you what. Watch a documentary called “Outfoxed.” That will give you some background on what I’m talking about. Sure, if you’re willing to concede that guys like O’Reilly, Hannity, and Beck are only opinion shows and not really the news, you’ve at least taken a reasonable step. But even in their cases, they present a “news” story, then proceed to rip it apart. Frequently this story they rip apart isn’t entirely factually accurate to begin with. Not to mention the average viewer believes what they are saying and does no further research. Since they’re on TV, they must know better, right?

Watch the documentary for starters. Note that they won a court case in that they were allowed to not present unbiased news, just “entertainment.” They know what they are doing, and their management tells their reporters what they must and can’t report on.

While I’m certain you’re thoroughly pleased with your ability to speak several languages, likely these will be removed and others may not see them.

No, I used Google Translator, @cockswain. I only speak English and Hillbilly. I have been interested in this thread and followed it with interest. I was just feeling silly last night after a late night swim and put in the Spanish remark. I hope you aren’t offended or upset.

No, but if you think context, sarcasm, intent, etc… can get lost in English, imagine how bad it is when we throw in other languages.

@bkcunningham Why does it matter if he was born here or not?

@JLeslie, you tell me. I was just correcting you when you said he was Cuban.

@bkcunningham I already said it makes no difference to me where he was born. You were the one pointing it out, and making it sound like I was saying he is not American. Maybe you just wanted to tell me he was born in America, it just did not feel that way to me. He is Cuban, Cuban-American. How the fuck would a Cuban be a US senator? If you are serious about your intent with that sentence you might consider admitting the way you worded it was poor. Forget it. We can just assume your intent was benign, and I misinterpreted.

A Cuban can be a US Senator the same way anyone else can be a US Senator, @JLeslie.

“No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 3, clause 3]”

I honestly wasn’t commenting on the context of your post. I was just correcting the fact that Marco Rubio is an American. It was one of those reading it, and noticing an error at first glance sort of things.

@bkcunningham You know, it dawns on me that without accepting the premise that Fox is a far right-wing media news outlet, you really don’t understand why I’d bother asking such a question regarding the Latino section. I see why it is of little consequence to you. To me, it seems like a shady attempt to indoctrinate a new segment of voter base towards conservative philosophy.

Admittedly, if everything Fox reported was actually fair and balanced, liberals actually would be vile, stupid people.

I don’t think think the question, to me at least, @cockswain, is whether or not I believe that Fox News is a “far right-wing” media outlet. I honestly get your point. I just know it isn’t anything new to indoctrinate young adults. Especially on college campuses. It isn’t a left or a right thing to do that. Young minds are easily molded and without life experience as a backup, it is easy to shape opinions on emotion. It is no different than Move-On.org, ACORN or ProgressNow and their sponsors and backers.

I agree, but those organizations don’t have nearly the influence that Fox does. Nor do they call themselves news organizations.

@bkcunningham Did you read the quote you wrote?

“No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 3, clause 3]”

He has to be a citizen to be a US senator, where he was born is moot in this context. Since it is a given the a person must be a citizen, then saying he is Cuban means Cuban ancestory or backround or family.

If I say Rudy Guiliani is Italian, are you going to tell me he was born in the US also? I doubt it.

The way I worded it was wrong @JLeslie. Please forgive my error. You are right.