Sane people: Can you give me some much needed advice about my work situation?

It kind of sounds like you cannot tell on him, without admitting to wrongdoing yourself.

@DrBill Not the case, very long to explain but its not the case. I have done wrong yes, but there are no possible consequences, his wrong doings are in another area, and much larger, I get out with my hands clean.

My boss is commiting fraud and theft, I’m getting “big tips” so to speak. (i have proof, and everyone knows that everyone knows that we all know)

It all sounds like a terrible work relationship and work atmosphere.
I don’t know how you came to this point, but if it was me I would like to get out of it as soon as possible, and the threatening of blackmail doesn’t sound very healthy either.
You probably won’t like the sound of this but isn’t it a possibility and a sign of maturity if the both of you have a talk and try to leave this bullshit behind the both of you and start afresh?

Give him his money. It isn’t yours.
If you make him money, he won’t cut his own throat and fire you.
If he does, don’t threaten to take your information anywhere. It sounds like danger is his business.

I strongly recommend washing your hands of any “semi-illegal/unofficial” commissions. Base your career on what you can do not what you can get away with.

Even the “nicest guy you’d ever want to know” has committed murder over less. Give him his money, don’t make threats, see what happens and if you get your last two paychecks, be thankful you got out of this without being hurt. Don’t participate in anything illegal again and you won’t find yourself in this predicament.

I am not clear on if you would normally give him the money. Would you?

If yes, then give him the money.

If he is going to fire you, then I would just let it happen. And count your blessings,

Whatever you do or do not do about reporting him, under no circumstances should you threaten him with reporting him. He will then be looking for a way to “get” you. He could even do something violent.

@marinelife I would normally maybe give him the money.

I have already given him a big chunk once this year, but since then he has gone a little strange in the head, and has made vague threats about fiering me. Mainly because I am a burden to him because of the things I know and photocopies I own.

As for the topic of violence, he is a 4ft 60 year old, and I’m a 6ft 28yo who is faiely in shape, he is not a mob boss or anything, he is just a regular greedy boss.

I have really done nothing wrong, I work hard, show up on time, and follow orders. Just, he has shown to me time and time again that he can’t be taken at his word. The things he says mean nothing, he can change his mind at any moment about anything, and I cant have a nut like that hold my future in his hands.

It is because of this, that I can’t help but think, that the best option is to “force” him to keep on on 2 more months, by making him believe I’ll give him the money once I get my last paycheck, and then maybe even screw him over anyway, just for putting me in that situation to start with.

@poisonedantidote Just because “he” cannot be taken at his word is no reason you should not be. Think bigger picture here…future jobs that more than likely will demand honesty and transparency.

It’s up to you how you want to treat this employer, but I wouldn’t burn any bridges. You may need him someday. Will it make you feel better about yourself to “screw him over”? Be the bigger man, know that you could hurt him, but don’t. Just walk away knowing you are being the grown up here.

You say after these last two checks that you’ll not ever work for this person again?
Say there’s a somewhat good chance you’ll only get 1 of the 2 checks, is it going to be bigger than the cash you’re holding in your hands right now?

What do you feel the odds are that he’ll stiff you both checks once he gets your cash?

Decide whether or not to hold onto your bundle and forego the last two checks or gamble giving over the cash and hoping for even one of the two checks.

@Neizvestnaya I will never work for him again, the job is awesome if you want very fast and easy money, but I have no end result to be proud of, or finished product, and the only guy there that I like is the one I first thought was an asshole, he may be blunt, but he does what he says and he look you in the eye when he talks. The job is over, my only concern now is maximizing my profit so that I can move on to the UK.

The checks would be slightly smaller than the cash im holding, but still enough for it to count.

If I give him the cash tomorrow, on the 1st of the month, when it is most profitable to fire me, I give it a 75% chance he will try.

If I lay threats against him, im 90% sure I keep my job. (either holding back the cash or reporting)

Not a gambler.

80% chance I give him the money If I get my paychecks.

I am puzzled about having to give him money, in the first place. Please explaine this situation. Is he paying everyone “under the table” to avoid income tax reporting? If this is the case, everyone involved will have to answer to the IRS. Need more info.

What? Your boss is extorting you before he will give you your paycheck, and you are going to blackmail him to avoid it? This whole thing sounds illegal and just plain crazy.

@john65pennington The tax man does not know half of what goes on at the place, there is a lot of under the table payment, but this mess is seperate to that.

As for the giving him money, I collect commission and fees from 3 places, 2 sets I get to keep, 1 set I hold for the business and hand over when there is a round number.

Anyway, I’m going to work now, I guess we will find out soon enough… If anyone is interested to know, I have chosen to fight for the 2 extra paychecks, lets see how it turns out. cya soon.

@YARNLADY This whole thing is more legal than you would like to believe, sadly. Things happen differently here, there are some aspects that are bordering on illegal, and some that are, but as luck has it I have kept my self in the clear. The blackmail will be the first illegal thing I do, and even then, he still has to prove it… I will be taking him far from any recording devices today before I talk to him.

Good luck out there!
If I could afford to end up with no checks but my integrity (and no future hassles) then I’d choose to give over the money and hope for checks but not count on them. It sucks if you really really really need that pay though.