What do you think of Bill Maher in light of the latest blowup with Hasselbeck?

He’s always stunk.

Sad. I thought he was better for some reason.

I thought it was blown out of proportion, but that’s just my opinion. The current events and public figure arena is just that: and arena. It is subject to every type of ridicule and humour, just like every type of support. This is how it goes. There are people all over the internet and TV commenting about every single current event that pops up.

People that have a problem with it can take it up with the Bill of Rights.

@Blackberry I wasnt referring to what we see a lot of though, in my OP.

@flo It was applicable because these two people aren’t different from anyone else. Of course the comments weren’t the most tasteful, but that’s what happens when your career is centered around being a comedian and a political commentator, as well as him being known for the type of person that doesn’t hold back.

Bill Maher is hilarious. Hasselbeck is an idiot with a big mouth. Just my opinion.

@Blackberry “not hold back”? Cowardly is more like it. “that’s what happens when your career is centered around being a comedian…” again you’re making excuses for the “comedian”.

@flo How is he coward, when he sat right next to the person he made the joke about and talked to them? He makes jokes about public officials every Friday on television…....Where’s the cowardice in that?

Are you aware that there are much, much, harsher jokes made by people who don’t make it to the mainstream media? Bill Maher is a clown at a kids’ party compared to many others. You need to dig a little deeper if you’re just looking to get offended.

@Blackberry I have seen Maher complain he wasn’t taken seriously as a commentator when he was stating his opinion on a topic. Then the next day when his commentary got mostly a negative response he claimed what do you expect from a commedian.

He should pick one or the other. If he is going to hide behind being a commedian he should not expect to be taken seriously about anything. If he wants to be taken seriously as a comentator he should not hide behind being a commedian when he makes a gaff.

@WestRiverrat Ah, valid point. I honestly didn’t think of that.

I think Maher is pretty bright, but not very funny. He is a comedian, and says outrageous things to get attention and laughs. He isn’t my taste.
Here, I thought he was respectful and straight forward. He was patient and clear with EH.
I thought the one who didnt’ get any respect was Whoopie. She had a hard time just getting anyones attention.

I adore Whoopie. I didn’t hear her say anything in this particular video, though. I miss her radio show. I don’t care much for “The View”

Maher has always stunk…from day one.

@Blackberry
And “hiding behind being a comedian” is the key phrase here. So, those who feel there isn’t enough toxic material (hello comedy central) out there, then maybe he is “a clown at a kids’ party compared to many others”.

If he and his cohorts were not holding back, there wouldn’t be the overwhelming amount of garbage – to use a kinder term – in his medium, TV. “Toddlers and Tiarra” to name one criminal. Family Guy, “the shock jock” on radio, and on and on.
Did Jon Stewart “not hold back” and refuse to have one of the Williams sisters after threatenening to shove the ball down an official’s throat? Not even close. “Hiding behind being a comedian” is the key phrase here. So, those who feel there isn’t enough toxic material (hello comedy central) out there, then maybe he is “a clown at a kids’ party compared to many others”.
@EmptyNest Whoopie promotes drug use, among other disguistingness. She is toxic, and The View is garbage plus. “The Talk” is garbage plus plus. Especially for there is a war on against women and young girls.

…In my humble opinion by the way.

I’m thinking @EmptyNest you might have caught Whoopie on her best days. I never heard her radio show, maybe she was different then, and maybe she has improved greatly since I watched the show the last time, may be 1 year ago.

@Blackberry re. “How is he coward, when he sat right next to the person he made the joke about and talked to them? He makes jokes about public officials every Friday on television…....Where’s the cowardice in that?”

Maher attacking Hasselbeck is no bravery since she is just one person (who used to be principled) on a ridiculous show. Maybe he feels she is competetive enough to for him, whether it is a fact or not. Penn State scandal and all kinds of tragic evets should not be trivialized period. What about tackling her positions on things that she said? Never mind the stupid jokes.

@flo I don’t know what else to say besides welcome to society. It is intricate and vast. This is why people have the option to not watch something if they feel it is offensive or not for their tastes. You don’t have to watch Maher or Comedy Central, but other people would like to. And it doesn’t really matter what your opinion is of the moral implications of media that is “toxic”.

Also, your opinion that tragic events should be trivialized is quite narrow. People deal with tragedy in their own ways; you’re not an arbiter of matters involving moral turpitude in the media and television.

@Blackberry GA….and well said.

@Blackberry
“I don’t know what else to say besides welcome to society”
Okay then, at least now you’re not in the kind of fawning position as before.
But then before you mentioned “Of course the comments weren’t the most tasteful, but…”

“You don’t have to watch Maher or Comedy Central, but other people would like to. And it doesn’t really matter what your opinion is of the moral implications of media that is “toxic”. You can’t be serious giving that as a response. Anyone can say that about any show, or any anything.

” People deal with tragedy in their own ways; ...”
The family and friends of the victim, the more decent memebers of population would be are dealing the tragedies, not the people who are making money by catering to the .... people out there, so let’s cross that out of the list of excuses.

@plethora Is that Christianity position? I would like chapter and verse please?

@flo ”You can’t be serious giving that as a response. Anyone can say that about any show, or any anything.” Exactly, this is why it’s all subjective.

You can cross out whatever excuses you want, but people are still going to do what they want without consulting you first.

Whoopie promotes drug use? Where is THAT coming from?

@Blackberry
In your post before the last “Also, your opinion that tragic events should be trivialized is quite narrow” You must have made an editing error “tragic events should not be trivialized.” although it is understood.

By my “Anyone can say that about any show, or any anything.” I meant that when people run out logical counter in a debate they do say things like that. Even a paedophile could say they are other pedophiles who think like me, if you don’t like it you don’t have to…”

Anyway, “Narrow”? is my position that tragic events should not be trivialized? So I should widen it in order to accomodate the garbage I guess?

But this has stopped being an actual debate.
”…you’re not an arbiter of matters…”
”...people are still going to do what they want without consulting you first.”…
”..it is all subjective“_

The kind of things you’re making accomodations for includes hate, insensitivity, mean spiritedness. Look at your avatar, “no hate”. How interesting is that?

@flo “Penn State scandal and all kinds of tragic evets should not be trivialized period.”

You made this statement as if it was completely objective, when it isn’t.

And I’m making accomodations for freedom of speech, that is all. Some of these things may include hatred or insensitivity, but that is also subjective. In the media environment, it’s common for people to claim to be offended just because someone made a joke that wasn’t Brady Bunch material or because their seemingly objective world was criticised.

@Blackberry you feel like you lost the arguement don’t you? As you should.

@flo Lol…No. If you don’t have anymore arguments, then I don’t know what else to say to you. If it’ll make you feel better, I can tell you that your objective morality is superior if you would like.

@Blackberry no my posts itemize things, refer to the topic at hand. Anything akin to “there is no right or wrong” which is the substance of your posts, is no arguement.

@flo You have a problem with someone’s jokes and/or opinions. I’m telling you that your opinion is only that. What is so hard to understand about that? There is no argument, unless you think people should be censored.

@Blackberry Everything is an opinion.
It is a fact that all sociopaths/sociopath lights see all right things as wrong.

Whatever you say, flo…...