@HungryGuy Even if we say, for the sake of argument, that both occurrences you mention are 100% genetics (born this way), the legal/moral difference is that one occurs between consenting adults and the other does not. The last half doesn’t really apply. A consenting adult could have sex with an animal, but that was more a learned appetite, and not one that they were born having. Certain people are born with certain levels, or degree of pedophilia, I have known some in my past, you can treat them to live with it, not act on it, the same way you can teach someone to manage an alcohol addiction, but they are still look upon as sick, or ill in the head.
@marinelife I disagree that homosexuality is necessarily seen as a mental illness. Perhaps by those who are prejudiced. I am sure at some point in history it might have been seen that way, masturbation also.
Lets test this, you know a person man/woman for over a year, got to know them well. They, for some reason they felt comfortable with you to trust in their secret, they were taking treatment/therapy for their pedophilia. How life was a struggle to spend any time in places like the mall, fast foods, etc where the types of young people who triggered them are. Would your perception change? Would you distance yourself from them, and gossip of them around the neighborhood to have other neighbors distance themselves? Would you have any understanding or compassion for them, or think they should be locked up or a danger to your neighborhood? If they confided they were into zoo sex instead, would that change thing?
@Luiveton Who cares what people think of homosexuality being classified as? We’re all humans in the end. It sounds good, doesn’t it? Reality, it is not. We are actually all humans, but some by their make up, beliefs, and actions are not afforded that reality. People have been marginalized by race, by physical handicap, and by sexual leanings. I would put to you the same scenario I have to @marinelife. You find yourself in that situation do you open your arms, or clinch your fist?
@jaytkay Ahhhhm the old gays = pedophiles trope. That never gets old. Not even close. Leave the football field and come over to the basketball courts, you’d be in the right game then. ;-)
@MissAusten Like @HungryGuy said, you’re talking about the difference between consenting adults and one person in a position of power taking advantage of another. What I read in that, is even in the non-direction, it has a direction. In actuality people in power are always having sex with people under them, no matter what the age. That is not what I get from what you were saying. You are focused on those young adults considered minors that any contact sexually with one considered not a minor was solely because they were never willing participants. That is a whole different area but goes to show the public mentality on how the two innate traits or treated.
@JLeslie I guess because some might argue schizophrenics are born that way, or with the tendency, and they are classified as mentally ill. Born that way does not necessarily mean mentally healthy. I would have to agree, I think, that with homosexuality, pedophilia, zoophilia?, beastophilia?, whatever they call it, there is no gene, etc they can point to and say. “There is the bugger causing all this problem, get the laser, we can cut it out”. I have non-science ideas about it but since it isn’t science I keep that quiet and just deal with the science. I don’t know if people are born with the fear of heights or if they learned it, but people have it. People have all manner of things they never thought of. Someone who is afraid of people, cats, the number 13, etc no one really calls “sick”, “demented” etc. Racist are not called “sick” in a mental sense, at least by most in the classical way. Racism is not something a person is born with, racism is something that is learned because it was taught to them, or the person embraced it once they were old enough to understand it.
Note: I personally do not think being gay is a mental illness, my answer is only to offer a possibile explanation for how some might look at it. That is why you are one of my fav, you can see beyond the box. Only a chucklehead could not see your intention. :-)