What do "no games" and "no drama" mean?

It means they are not looking to get played. They are interested in a real relationship.

You seem to be starting with a pretty big chip on your shoulder about women. This does not bode well for your future relationships.

No drama means different things to different people. She could mean she doesn’t want any baby-mama-drama, or she doesn’t want a man who is going to cheat on her and use her (no games). They are looking for someone who is ready to commit.

Oh and when a woman claims she’s a dork I think she means she is a geek type. Book smart and nerdy, not one of the popular girls who thinks about partying and hanging out all the time. Thats my guess.

“No games” means they are tired of men stringing them along but never comitting to a real relationship. “No Drama” means they want an emotionally mature man who is not wrapped up in a lot of former wives/lovers, or a lot of stuff with their kids, and who is not vacillating on the relationship by putting it all on the woman.

And “dork” is trying to be attractive as someone who is cute and in shape but not trying to be a Barbie doll, someone who wears casual, not designer, clothes; sneakers, not Manolos or Louboutins. They are telling you they are “quirky” but safe.

It means ask them up front what exactly they want, and decide if you want the same thing. If not, then end the relationship.

Gee, your attitude tells me exactly why you’re looking through the personal ads…

No games: looking for someone who does not use relationships to assert their dominance, to string women along without being committed, or to otherwise obscure the true nature of a relationship; looking for someone who doesn’t think there are “rules” or “strategies” for “tricking” a woman into doing what he wants.

No drama: looking for someone who has their life well enough in order that there won’t be new emergencies or tragedies to deal with every week; looking for someone who does not think that “passion” means “constant upheaval.”

Dork: not pretending to be a movie heroine, not afraid to reveal embarrassing facts; someone who is willing to let down her guard rather than always play a character in the relationship (most people are probably like this with the right person, but few realize this because we so rarely see it in others; this makes sense, though, since we’re not seeing them as long-term intimates).

Sarcastic: clever, witty; only a negative to men with unjustifiably large egos.

Tell it like you see it up front. The girl will tell it like she sees it. Be honest. Don’t string her along, play her, lie to her. She won’t do the same with you. Limit the fighting, the not answering the phone when she calls stuff, standing her up, crap like that.

Thanks for your responses. That clears up a lot.

@Uberwench and @JilltheTooth : You are confusing cause with effect. And I know what sarcastic means, unlike the other expressions, and it is not a synonym for clever or witty. If those women think it is, then they just don’t know what the word means, which would explain their (mis)use of it.

@Uberwench That is about as well stated as it gets.

Seeking REAL relationships minus the head games and manipulative manners of control.

“No games” means say what you mean and mean what you say. No mixed messages, no weasely fence sitting, and especially no manipulative and passive aggressive behavior. Be clear, direct, upfront about what you want and don’t mess with others emotions because YOU are too flakey to make a choice and stick with it.
“No drama” means be emotionally intelligent, mature.

Realize that everyone has problems and yours are NOT the end all and be all of the world. Don’t whine and complain, take action, and know that people WILL get sick of constant hysterical and dramatic behaviors.

Both of these translate to have INTEGRITY, walk your talk and EARN the respect and trust of others through your ACTIONS.

Women like drama? Yes, but only if they are the auteur. They like to write, star, and direct in the dramas they find themselves in, like Woody Allen. They don’t want to land in a drama of someone else’s making, in which they are cast as a villainess or in a merely supporting role. Anyway, they usually outgrow this after a while, or no longer have the energy for it once they have kids.

I find it interesting the French say la comédie instead of drama.

@CugelTheClueless I’m telling you what it’s supposed to mean in the context of the ad. They use keywords for various reasons. My condolences to the woman who ends up with you.

It means that some women want to make games and drama the strict preogative of the female. When the guys get involved, it wrecks their program. Sort of like if a guy happened to say, “No grilling, no golf”

No drama means no drama. That would be the first thing I’d say or think in a relationship. It does not mean that I only want a drama of my own choosing, because there is no drama whatsoever in my life. I’ve seen men that have so much crap going on with their lives, with 3 or 4 women with babies from him, fighting with each other, etc.

”Hi, I am Ellen, a thirty three year old sales manager.”
“What I am looking for are guys that fool me, cheat me, and, well, play me.”
“You know, don’t take in account my feelings and my wants and needs.”
“Preferably men that still struggle with passed relationships (be they with lovers or their mothers).”
“Or, in short, men with ‘backpacks’ (I just love to play shrink to you)....., you are most welcome!”

That definitely would attract only the finest of the species, right?

I’d take it to mean that the person who says it is looking simply, for honesty

Whoa there! That’s quite the generalization. Not all women like drama. In fact, considering she said “no drama,” I would say this one seems to dislike drama quite a bit.

I’d say she wants you to say what you mean and mean what you say.

No game playing – She wants you to keep it real and not mess with her head.

No drama – Keep it simple. No ongoing sagas with baggage from previous relationships.

If she wants “no drama” and “no games”, my guess is that she doesn’t want a guy who uses her for sex, but lies about loving her.

If she’s calling herself a “dork”, my guess is that she has her own opinions and considers herself easy to get along with.

It sounds like you need to sort out your attitude towards women before you try to take onboard any of these answers. Really.

Some testy folks here. Methinks the ladies and a few gents do protest too much. I wonder how many of the respondents to this question have used these expressions in ads?

If these expressions mean what you all say they mean, then I wonder why these women bother to say them at all. It’s kind of like putting a sign on your door saying, “Do not vandalize or burglarize this house.” Do they think that the kind of man they’re trying to avoid will be dissuaded by these buzz phrases? Also, most sites have a space on their form that allows the user to specify what kind of relationship they are looking for; if they only want a LTR, then they can indicate that.

The fact that I look down upon inanity in thought and language doesn’t mean I look down on women. Not all women fill their profiles with empty verbiage like this (another example: “I like to laugh.” Who doesn’t?). I guess I should be grateful that so many women write so poorly—it makes it easier to spot the ones who have something interesting to say.

@Uberwench right back atcha, babe.

^ I understand, I think. I’ve known females who claimed to hate drama, but were some of the biggest drama starters I knew. o_O I think what you’re looking for is someone whose actions speak for themselves. Nothing wrong with that. I don’t really see a difference between you being turned off by this and a woman being turned off by a guy who says he’s “nice”. If he’s so nice, his actions will show it. He doesn’t need to say it.