1st) Just let me say, I’m not a very scholastic person. That doesn’t mean I’m unintelligent, or that I can’t do school. I’ve just always wanted to be out in the real world instead of a classroom. It took me a long time to realize it, but school just isn’t for everyone.
2nd) My mentality is that when you’ve worked your way up from the bottom, you are more qualified and deserving of whatever greatness you can achieve; when compared to those who substituted the hardships/experience of the climb up, for a book.
Since I know that 2nd one is going to stir up a lot of controversy left to itself, I’ll elaborate that point a little.
Without a degree, I do engineering work right now. I sit next to a guy my age, who also does engineering, but has a degree. The difference between us, is that while we both know how to engineer something, he doesn’t understand what tools and processes will be used for fabrication (which affects design), how long it should actually take to build, why certain design features are just too difficult or impossible to satisfy despite theory, or any of the positions surrounding/supporting his own. That is the difference between actually working through every area of manufacturing to arrive at engineering, and taking classes to arrive there.
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That being said…
I’ve worked my way up and I’m making good money doing engineering work right now, without a degree. Not only that, but my work is constantly teaching me new skills through one-on-one training, seminars, and paying for classes when I want them to. Mind you, I had to work my way up over about 6–8 years. I started at the bottom position of a machine shop when I was about 16–17. 3.5 years later I was making enough to be out on my own stably (no roommates). 5 years after that 1st job I was making “good” money. And now I’m making more than all my fiends (but still not “a lot” in the grand scheme), however I’m only 25 and there’s still lots of room to advance.
Meanwhile, my friends with a degree, who have managed to find a job, are just now making about what I was 3ish years ago. But the list of friends with a degree and a good job is short. The majority of them are still living at home with their student bills, and can’t find a job period, let alone one making much more than what I was in my very 1st entry level position. It seems to me, that in the end, they’re going to have to work their way up just like I did anyways. If they get lucky, their degree will help them take 1 or 2 steps up the ladder from the get go, but that still puts them working up to a higher position from below where mine is now.
Lack of experience is a complete hindrance; no questions asked. Unless you’re going into the medical field, no resume looks good when you have JUST school on it. However, on the other hand, a resume with lots of pertinent experience and some or even no schooling still looks good in-and-of-itself… Ironically, I actually attribute my luck with finding and getting the good jobs I’ve had, to NOT having a degree. With the recent economy, companies seem much more appt to pay me less (although it’s still a lot as far as I’m concerned) than to fork out more for someone with less experience and a piece of paper.
Don’t get me wrong here… I see the value in a degree… However I think there is more value in experience. If I were a hiring manager, I would take someone with experience over a degree any day! Where I work now (SAIC), my boss, a lot of the electrical/mechanical/software/manufacturing engineers, and everyone in sales and purchasing don’t have degrees, and their all making good money (at least as much as my parents who both have masters degrees).
In terms of GETTING a job:
No one will question you when you tell them “I know I’m qualified because I’ve been doing this for years”. Everyone will question you when you tell them, “I know I’m qualified because I have a degree.”
To give you a straight answer…
My advice is to either, get your degree while you’re working in a pertinent field (entry level or otherwise); or, to get your degree after you’ve established some legitimate experience. That’s just how its worked out best for me.
Mind you, if you take the route of experience, there will come a time where you feel like you’re making sh*t and all anyone cares about is that stupid piece of paper. I was firmly set in that mindset for a few years… but thankfully I was proven wrong, and it all paid off. If you can work hard and stick it out experience will get you where you want to go.