[NSFW] Does a man consider himself a virgin when...

And by this, do you mean..if he is on the receiving end of things, in both cases?

Wooow. If he is putting his penis into someone else’s butthole.

Oh. Then no. He’s not a virgin. He put his penis in someone else. Automatic Pro. :D

.. It doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

Well, Butt-sex is still sex.

Obviously, felatio isn’t considered sex. I know this because the President said so.

I think a virgin, or a virginal state, is for one’s own defining. One could have partial sex in their teens, and still feel a virgin – or not. As for Gay people – it shouldn’t be any different. I don’t think it has to do with who is on the receiving end, per se. It’s more a state of mind.

You have sex, you aren’t a virgin. It’s a private thing and feeling anyway. One should simply determine for oneself, if they are even so inclined, whether they are a virgin or not.

Well, in that case.. I’m still a virgin. I have determined this for myself, just now.

Nope. Gonna have to disagree. You either are or you aren’t. You can’t just decide if you feel like a virgin or not. How you feel has no bearing on where your penis or vagina has been. Or..butt, as the case may be.

Also, I count oral sex as sex. You know, since it has the word “sex” in it. A lot of girls disagree with me, but that doesn’t change the fact that they had a penis in and around their mouths.

Any guy whose first experience of penetrative sex is of the anal variety, clearly can’t be tagged a virgin, not anymore.
I’d marvel at his initiative though, from virgin to humping arse in one big leap, good job man.

It’s still sex regardless of what hole he uses. If another person is involved, he’s not a virgin any more.

I agree with @downtide.

Yes this counts as loss of virginity, downtide is right the hole doesn’t matter.

I agree with @LezboPirate, once he’s been in an orifice then the virgin status is kind of silly.

Virginity has different definitions for different people. I think most dictionaries define a virgin as someone who has not had sexual intercourse. Generally that would apply to penetration of the vulva by the penis. But others define sexual intercourse differently, i.e. anal penetration. Words are are all man-made (or woman-made) and can be interpreted many ways.

So for men it seems sticking the dick into either an ass or a vagina is losing one’s virginity, while for a woman it’s strictly vaginal? Sounds about right for me.

The jury seems to be out on blow jobs, although it is pretty well accepted by the local school kids that oral doesn’t count.

Which is surprising given when I was in college (the 70’s) that it was much easier to get laid than to get head. “I’ll have sex with you but you’re not putting that thing in my mouth.” Times have changed.

It seems to me that the importance of being a virgin is about knowing whether the progeny are yours. By that standard, oral and anal sex are completely irrelevant. The only thing that matters is vaginal sex.

As to what a “man considers himself,” that’s really up to the man. This man considered himself a virgin until he had had vaginal intercourse.

I would imagine that for gay men, the concept is sort of ludicrous. What does it matter? There’s little at stake, unless you want to be traversing virgin territory. Is that important? Perhaps to some. In that case, it seems you can have all kinds of different virginities—hand virginity, ass virginity, vagina virginity, mouth virginity, tittie virginity, golden showers virginity, spanking virginity, handcuff virginity and on and on and on and on and on.

The term “virgin” is subjective.

To some people, a virgin is a female who never had a penis inside her vagina.

To other people, a virgin is anyone who has never had their genitalia in contact with another person nor had any part of their body in contact with another person’s genitalia.

There’s nothing “virgin” about any of that in my opinion.

Thanks, @AstroChuck. Your post complemented my intention.

In my opinion the term “virgin” should apply to females only.

A woman is a virgin as long as she has not had semen deposited into her vagina.

A man can never be a virgin because he has no reproductive parts than can be fertilized.

Against my own personal distaste, I’m going to agree with @gondwanalon on this one. The whole concept of “virginity” is about quantifying the “purity” of a woman. Yes, that’s offensive. But there really isn’t a male equivalent.

@gondwanalon So if a women has sex, but the man pulls out before depositing semen into her, she is still a virgin?

I agree that when one loses their virginity depends on what they consider virginity to be to begin with. Personally, I always thought of it as having sex vaginally because of the relationship with the hymen being involved. Obviously this is more so for women. I never though much about the specifics of it relating to men.

@Seaofclouds If a man (not wearing a condom) places his penis into a woman’s vagina then the woman can not be considered a virgin. This is because small amounts of semen will ooze out of the penis before the man can pull out for a full ejaculation. It only take one sperm to make a woman pregnant.

@gondwanalon Ok. If he wears a condom and doesn’t get any semen in her, is she still a virgin then? I’m not trying to pick on you, just understand your viewpoint.

@Seaofclouds Hey, no harm, no foul. HA!
But seriously, I think that in the case that you state, The woman would no longer be considered a virgin because the structural integrity condom could fail (break and or leak). Also that is not very virgin-like behavior.

Actually there is a practical, medical way to find out which has nothing to do with semen. And yes, the whole notion of virginity was invented to apply to women only, at a different time and for very different people. Men (whether straight or gay) as well as modern western women (again straight or gay) apply a completely different moral notion to it, which has to do with assumed purity of heart, rather than body, and the label “virgin” (often even use derogatively after a certain age in contemporary societies) basically means “inexperienced in sex”. Which in turn is also an invitation to someone to become your first, or teach you.

In that sense, it is irrelevant whether the intercourse was vaginal, and it could therefore be applied to men, or even, as stated earlier, be defined as “never been kissed” or “never did it with more than 2 different species at the same time”. I personally consider my first time to be that day when I had vaginal intercourse (twice, using a condom both times) with one of my classmates when we were 18. I came very close with my previous girlfriend a few months before that, but since I never actually penetrated her, both of us considered ourselves virgins at the time.