Is water4gas.com a scam site? Has anyone tried the kit?

Please. Wouldn’t the big three US auto corporations be raking it in instead of operating in the red if this were legit? How many H2O cars have you seen on the interstate?

Just remember advice you’ve heard a million times before: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I don’t know about the 3 US auto corporations but this year honda will release the FCX which will run on water.

The idea of water injection to increase power has been around since the P-51 aircraft. The technology to separate the hydrogen from water has been around for a lot longer. The real question is, “Can a practical device be produced to provide the volume of Hydrogen needed to materially assist the combustion in an engine?” The vendors say it can. I’m not holding my breath. But then again, I tend to be pessamistic.

I am with Allie. Caveat emptor. If this worked, at the price of gas today, it would be everywhere in the news, on the morning shows, on the news shows.

No way, car makers are squeezing out every bit of MPG they can muster out of traditional combustion engines with the most advanced engineering available.
In the next ten years, the one with the best, will be the last one standing. Never believe an ad in the back pages if a mag and never buy a product from an infomercial, if the product was “that good” it would sell itself.

@pattyb – I take exception with the infomercial comment. My Magic Bullet rocks!

ok I’ll give you the magic bullet, and even a g. Foreman grill, have you seen this new car wash sponge with, get this, SOAP INSIDE THE SPONGE, only 19.99 for 2, of course you have to pay for shipping.

Oil Corporations wouldn’t allow for R&D in new alternative sources of energy. They would shoot themselves in the foot if they do it. This is why we have companies like CalStart who are one of the leaders in electric vehicles today, Vectrix motorcycles. It is just not in the best interest for huge corp like the big three to develop or at least they don’t see the big picture. We have the technology to replace at least partially black gold, I just dunno why our government doesn’t support these technologies.

If you have any basic chemistry knowledge you’ll see this is a scam. There’s no energy in water.

@Magnus Could you get liquid Hydrogen from water? If you could that’s your energy source. After all there are two molecules of Hydrogen and one of Oxygen

Obviously some people don’t understand basic chemistry. THERE IS ENERGY IN WATER! Current hydrogen cars are a good example. But for further examples… basic chemistry tells us that we can seperate the gases in water into oxyhydrogen through elecrolysis.Oxyhydrogen has been used since at least 1966 for torches (thats right there is a such thing as a water torch)! For combustion to take place you need 3 things fuel, oxydizer, and a ignitor. In a standard engine (excluding diesel) your fuel is gasoline, your oxydizer is oxygen, and your ignitor is your spark plugs. In this application your just replacing some of the gasoline with hydrogen, creating a gasoline/hydrogen hybrid. The question is, as stated earlier can it produce enough hydrogen to actually make a difference. I would say probably not, however I plan on trying it anyway just because I enjoy doing experiments. Also worth noting is that the Scorpion supercar that is said to be released shortly actually uses this technology just on a much larger scale and claims to get 40mpg out of an Acura 3.5L engine (which normally gets 25 mpg, which is a 60% increase). Also worth noting is that the Big 3 are not getting even close to what technology is avaliable for maximuim MPG, there is an Opel racecar that just recently ran an endurance race with an average speed of 140mph while getting 113mpg on Bio-Diesel.

Just for reference here is an article on the scorpion supercar http://www.dancewithshadows.com/motor/ronn-motors-scorpion-hydrogen-super-gets-40-mpg-with-hydrogen-generator-kit-photo-gallery/

Response to edmartin101.

Hydrogen isn’t an energy source, it’s considered an energy carrier. Because you have to use energy to get the pure hydrogen out, and you get energy from it when it combusts.

That goes for makeUsayHmm as well.

makeUsayHmm, there is energy in hydrogen, but none in water. Water is the “ashes” that you’re left with when you burn hydrogen, just as carbondioxide is left over when you burn carbon (e.g. coal). A car that runs on water is just as impractical as a car that runs on CO2.

To make hydrogen from water (for example, through electrolysis) requires energy input. Where will this energy come from? Because no process is 100% efficient, the amount of energy invested to extract hydrogen as an energy carrier from water will always exceed the usable energy gained from burning hydrogen in a fuel cell or internal combustion engine.

To give you some concrete figures, it takes about 5 kWh of electricity to extract one cubic metre (1000 litres) of hydrogen. If you then run a car engine on this to drive a generator to make electricty, you’ll get back about 0.5 kWh at best. You’re stuck with a net loss of 4.5 kWh. A car with a “hydrogen generator” that sucks power from your alternator actually uses more fuel, not less.

In practise it makes no difference because these devices are so inadequate in size, their negative impact is not even noticeable, except in your wallet when you purchase this junk. The last part is what it’s all about.

“Water for fuel” or “the car that runs on water” is a hoax that enriches snake oil salesmen and their shills who get kickbacks from advertising scam sites via affiliate schemes.

this product was mentioned in the vidcast “tekzilla”, and they did an experiment to see how much hydrogen is produced using this http://water4gas.com method. There conclusion=not enough hydrogen produced. I wish this http://water4gas.com wasn’t a scam, good thing vidcasts like tekzilla review these types of products or else alot of people will be wasting their hard earned cash.

maybe the magnet motors will be our solution to fuel-free engines.

Magnus… Just to clarify Hydrogen is an energy source, water would be the energy carrier. Energy is produced when the Hydrogen is ignited, energy is needed to get the Hydrogen out of the water.

joewein… that is true, Hydrogen is the energy source, however as stated above water is the energy carrier, so there is energy in water it just needs to be processed (electrolysis) to be usable, which does require energy as you stated.

This is for joeweinstien is the alternator already spining making energy also what obout a solar cell for the curent the unit only takes 16 amps duuuuu

this is not spam but i want many people to see other choice.
You don’t have to try something to understand that it works.
I’ve seen facts on the news and all over the Internet, that running a car on water IS possible.

Even that I haven’t tried doing it, it doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.

Have you searched for other sites? Did you see it?

Is it really a scam?
if you don’t satisfy you can asked for refund..no more pain

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