For the record when I say “liberal Christianity” I mean variants of Christianity where there either is no hell or there is a hell but God won’t send you there just because you haven’t asked Jesus into your heart.
@Judi (and possibly @Buttonstc), I’m apologizing in advance if this is based on an inaccurate interpretation of your take on salvation, but what I’m getting through your poetry is that being saved from sin makes it easier for you to let go of the guilt and negative emotions that come from your bad choices. In other words it gives you absolution, if not literally then mentally.
So, if that’s what you meant, what is the connection between between executing a man/god and your peace of mind? I understand Jesus dying in your place/paying the price of your sin. That’s a classic blood for blood scapegoat, your sins are transferred to the scapegoat who is punished in your place. But how does Jesus’ death sooth your conscience? I don’t see a relationship between the two.
People feel better about their missteps when they are forgiven, when they are loved in spite of them and when they’re able to make up for them. If you feel the presence of a loving god he should be able to show you the depths of his love and forgiveness without anyone dying. Normally I wouldn’t expect the death of someone to make anyone feel better. If Jesus was dying selflessly to rescue you from hellfire that would at least be like a fireman dying to save a child. It’s not his suffering that saves the child it’s the action he achieves in spite of his suffering.
But to sacrifice a life because I’m feeling guilty about something? That doesn’t strike me as a…productive death. Jesus was tortured to death. He didn’t save his regiment by refusing to reveal secrets or offer his body to be tortured instead of your own*. It was just death and torture. If I thought anyone was put through a thousandth of what Jesus went through because of me I would be wrecked. It definitely wouldn’t make me felt better.
When I make mistakes or choices I regret there’s a process I go through to deal with the consequences. It can’t be avoided and I can’t pass it off. That’s how you learn to be a better person. I think you go through the same process, because you’re a good person.
Which leaves me back where I started: not knowing the place of Jesus’ crucifixion in a Christianity without damnation.
*I say this because it sounds like you don’t think Jesus’ death & torture was suffered lieu of you suffering such a punishment for your sins. It wouldn’t apply to versions of Christianity that hold that he did suffer in place of sinners.
@Buttonstc Thanks for the links. I did some browsing, but I couldn’t find anything on the role of the crucifixion. I’ll do some more poking around later.