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It is the western shore of Hawaii and I stand on the edge of a cliff... will you join me?

Asked by Dog (25152points) April 12th, 2012

The sea spray tingles at our faces as we watch the sun set and take note of the gentle sea turtles grazing in the seaweed below. The gentle smell of orchids mix with the salty sea.

We have a purpose on the cliff. It is to identify what ever thing is preventing you from moving forward into your destined life- the life that you know in your heart belongs to you.

It could be debt, or the upkeep on a home you truly cannot afford.
Perhaps it is a fear that, if you make the step into you dream that the dream will shatter, leaving you vulnerable and alone.

Or obligation to work, children, spouses or parents. self sacrifice chosen without regret.

It could also be fear- your fear of the unknown, fear that if you reach out to touch the stars they will shatter and sink into the depths of the black sea.

It is a beautiful evening on the sunset cliff. Will you throw anything into the depths to better yourself?

I will have a glass of very nice wine… sip it and then, with a heart of man-made stone I will drop the invisible ball and chain into the water below, watching it slowly sink out of sight, it tears at my soul as it it washes into the black depths.

Another glass of very nice wine and I will offer out a positive message to those who chose to venture to the cliff to better themselves.

Is there something you need to take care of on the cliff?
No regrets…

Just open your hand and let it drop into the depths of the sea.

Maybe you are completely empty in side and need to feel again. Nature is eager to fill a void.

Tell us, Jellies, Would you join us at the cliff ?

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22 Answers

Sunny2's avatar

What a relief! I thought you were going to jump!
But I have to say no to your invitation. I don’t have anything to throw over the edge and I no longer can drink. But thanks for the offer. I hope a lot of people will take you up on your offer.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

I’m empty inside. You have to promise me something I can feel.

Otherwise I have whiskey and a cynical smirk.

augustlan's avatar

What a beautiful scene you’ve set for us! Can I drop my health ailments off the cliff? Because that would be lovely, thanks. Cheers!

josie's avatar

I’ve been on that cliff, and did just what you described.

syz's avatar

I think that even if I found my way to that cliff, I wouldn’t be able to let go of the fear that holds me back. Fear of failure, fear of what others think of me, fear of the future, fear of failing health, fear of aging…....some variation of that fear has been with me for my entire life, and is very firmly entrenched. It would require major and drastic surgery to remove it.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Dog That is beautiful. I will join you at the cliff in an instant. I’ve been to the cliff several times with no regrets. Some worked better than others but I’ve grown from the experience.

picante's avatar

I will join you—I may be too fearful to participate fully, but I’ll pour the wine and cheer those who are letting go. Perhaps one kindred spirit on that cliff will connect with me and give me the strength to finally let go. Thank you for this moment of solice.

Trillian's avatar

Sorry I’m late. Just let me toss my negative self and other judgementalism into a ball, I don’t want it to brush anyone on the way over. Thanks. I’ve been looking for a way to get rid of that.

harple's avatar

Is it possible for me to throw logistics into the sea?... :o/ I am so ready to move beyond them.

Mariah's avatar

This is lovely, @Dog.

It might not be Hawaii, but today the sun is shining brightly and campus is all in bloom. Even still I often find myself gazing around with a sense of incredulous amazement that I’m here after The Long Battle it took to get here. I breathe in and out deeply with profound satisfaction.

There are still some things that would be better off dropped down that cliff, and I’ll send them there someday…but for now, I am content.

Mikevio's avatar

Nope! Choices are made. Need to suck it up and live life. Find the good in what you have, not the bad in what once or could be.

wundayatta's avatar

No cliffs for me. Too dangerous. But I would like to sit in an Adirondack chair in the sand watching the sunset. I think I’ll put the stuff I want to let go of in a bottle, and set that bottle in a little balsam boat with a paper sail and let it sail away. Although, most likely I’d need to be looking East in the morning as that’s the way the prevailing winds blow.

I can not tell you the two things I would put in that bottle. Suffice to say they would change my life quite dramatically, and I am not ready for that yet. I may never be ready for that. Sometimes one might feel compelled to choose between two loves, and perhaps it is not so good to force yourself to do that.

To choose is to hurt. Letting go of one aspect of oneself can hurt the side one does not choose. There is no telling, in advance, if that is a good choice. A better choice. In fact, the Zen philosopher in me says that I should not choose. I should just continue and whatever happens, I should choose to enjoy that and appreciate it and then it will become the fulfillment of my life.

It is a Western thing to let go, I think. This idea of oneness or otherness but not bothenss or not completeness. I think that in many of our answers so far, we have seen a resistance to this image of letting go. Perhaps people instinctively realize they are whole as they are, together with longings and blockages as well as with aspirations and dreams. We do not need to let go. We can embrace the things that might hold us back, and change our way of seeing. Perhaps we are not being held back at all. Perhaps this is exactly where we want to be!

The American way is to pick a goal, and to charge towards it. If we don’t reach the goal, we see ourselves as failures.

I challenge that idea. I challenge us to see ourselves as perfect as we are. To be happy with ourselves and our places. To be happy with internal conflict. To enjoy the play of desire within us, yet not have to move in any particular direction unless we feel like we will be more comfortable if we do so.

Don’t get me wrong. I love desire. I love wanting something. But I don’t feel I have to have it, any more. Wanting is a delightful state, all on its own. Gratification is wonderful, but many times it is a disappointment. Desire can not be a disappointment, and it creates delightful anticipation and hope and despair. Yes, despair. Despair can be delightful, too.

I appreciate this invitation to meditate on my state of desire at this particular time in life. I especially appreciate it because it reminds me of what I learned in the last few years about desire and judgment and of why, exactly, that cliff is so dangerous to me.

When I see things like cliffs, the choice is so stark. I know I am a failure. The only reasonable choice is to jump and dash myself on the rocks below and hope to hell I die.

So I avoid cliffs. I avoid seeing my life in such stark terms. I prefer to look broadly, and see all the difficulties and all the challenges and to appreciate them as problems to be solved. I try to see the patterns—all the complex patterns created by the sand and the waves and the wind and the rocks, and I try to see from all places at once, and maybe some day I will see how everything relates to everything else.

Maybe some day, I will see it all as a whole—intellectually as well as spiritually. Maybe some day, I will be able to see it as a God, knowing exactly where to push in order to make precisely the changes I want to make. Then, if only I will have the right fulcrum, I’ll be able to push the lever and move the world.

LuckyGuy's avatar

May I join you to merely be in the company of such thoughtful, caring people? I’ll bring a nice semi-dry Riesling, some Brie, crackers, and a 2 pound bag of premium dog food. We all can enjoy the conversation while tossing dog food over the side for the sea turtles.

Coloma's avatar

You’re not suggesting a mass dive into the sea are you? I’m there, but this little Lemming is not jumping, I want to share that bottle of wine and brie with @LuckyGuy. I’m of a cliff myself again after years of sublime peace. Trying to decide if I am going to hold on out here in the hills which I love or move to a less expensive environment. I’m giving myself til fall to make the decision dependent on certain external factors.
Aaah, I’ve jumped off of many a cliff in my time and so far I always land on my feet, a little battered perhaps, but alive and ready to turn the page and engage in the next chapter of this book of life. :-)

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

Aloha no kakou! E komo mai e Hawai’i nei. (Aloha, everyone! Welcome to Hawai’i.)

Yes, I will stroll to the cliff and gladly release my fears. I have a deep-seated fear that god/goddess is not real, and I am ready to release it. If it is not real, then I will be better without the fear. If it is real, then I will know its love regardless.

I am fighting this release. My childhood was steeped in religion, which I have gratefully left behind. Yet, throughout my life, I have had many events and experiences that are unexplained and are not mere coincidence.

But I pledge to you that today I will actually drive to that cliff, and I will drop my fear. There may be residual emotions, but I am ready to free myself. I will smell the salt air off the waves. I will feel their spray. I will release myself to the sense of wonder that I am a part of the universe knowing itself. As Carl Sagan so elegantly said, I am made of stardust, or was that Neil de Grasse Tyson?

This is a deep fear, and I can feel it in my chest tightening, wanting to hold on. The sea breeze can have it. I will let it blow through me and wash me.

I am not empty. I have not felt that way for more than 12 years. Sobriety filled me beautifully. Living as an open gay man filled me. Acknowledging my bipolar disorder and the limitations it places on me filled me. I have friends. I have children. I am loved, and I give love.

Love is all around waiting for me to receive it. I will release a fear today, and I will accept love.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

@Dog : Your title and details are beautifully scripted.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Stop pushing me! Seriously! You’re gonna make m

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Okay, on a more serious note… I’d like to dump my health issues and impatience over the side. And we can all eat my chocolate and drink my rum, as I watch it fall into the sea and drown.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

To all who brave the journey to this cliff, I say,

“Kihe ka ihu i ka ‘ale.”

(One who sneezes when the spray from the surf rises at the bow of the canoe).

Said of one who braves danger with indifference.

ETpro's avatar

The poetic wording of that makes me believe in @Dog.

ratboy's avatar

Jump! Jump! Ah… You ain’t got the balls.

rooeytoo's avatar

Wow the question itself and @Hawaii_Jake ‘s response have me about half bawling! I think I have already been there and done that. Although it is more of a never ending process for me than a one time act. I think I will be working at getting rid of those fears and more importantly not letting them back in for all of my life. And I accept that because, one day at a time, I can do it. And Jake I understand what you say about the god/goddess. I envy those who so surely believe or disbelieve, I would settle for either if I could accept without reservation.

GA @Dog and don’t worry if you can’t dump it all at once, I think most people find it to be a process rather than a single task.

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