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Do you gang up on new people when a silly question hits a nerve?

Asked by Atom (95points) May 3rd, 2012

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syz's avatar

Are you a returning troll user, or a new one?

Brian1946's avatar

Since I’m only one person, my ganging up is very limited.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Not just new people. I gang up on old people too.

SpatzieLover's avatar

No. I flag the question and move on.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Think I have seen this movie before.

Coloma's avatar

No, but it’s only too obvious when someone is, well, lets just say, not gonna make the team.

wundayatta's avatar

I think that a silly question generally gets some silly answers and then there are people who take them seriously and think you are a troll. The problem with new people is they don’t have a track record, and so people tend to think the worst.

I don’t know whether you meant it to be silly or not, but it seemed silly to me, so I answered it in that spirit. I often answer questions I think are silly in a silly way because it’s fun to do so. Some people take offense. Others don’t mind.

Some people here are offended by silly questions. I think that’s sad. But not everyone wants the same thing.

In my opinion, you shouldn’t worry about what people think. As long as you are honest in doing what you do, and you can convince the troll-erators that you are honest, you’ll be fine. But you may have to get a tough skin for a while until people come to understand that you are harmless.

It is possible to be different here. It is possible to be different and to even get lurve. But you have to be able to explain yourself. People here are quick to point the troll-finger. Stand up to it. Point out to them how they are discouraging new ideas and different ideas. Some may care. Others just want things to always be the same.

It has been entirely too boring around here for a while. I hope you stay. Weather the storm. Have a good humor about it. These people are nice once they get past their initial fear of newness.

Atom's avatar

@Coloma If only my brain could work as well as your response. I’d be right up there with you gal!..let me send you some “roses in my lack of wisdom” .....:D

tranquilsea's avatar

For me very few silly questions hit a nerve. Silly question = silly response.

Atom's avatar

really now…=)

Coloma's avatar

Randy? Is that you? Anyone betting?

marinelife's avatar

I have done, but of late I have tried to curb the behavior.

SpatzieLover's avatar

@Coloma No the writing style is different, but I’ve seen it before

How is this a Meta question?

janbb's avatar

@SpatzieLover It’s Meta because it’s about Fluther behavior. It was originally in General but it must have been moved.

gailcalled's avatar

I would love to gang up on some people if I could only find three other people to join my gang.

Any takers?

wundayatta's avatar

@gailcalled who do you have in mind?

gailcalled's avatar

First come, first serve. Only requirement is to spell “definitely” correctly.

Atom's avatar

@gailcalled So if you are a foreigner and your First Language is not English you Stereo Type their questions because of grammar and punctuation as stupid?

syz's avatar

@gailcalled I’m sad, I have trouble with that word :(

janbb's avatar

@gailcalled Is “first serve” or “first served”?

janbb's avatar

Pathfinder – dat you??

gailcalled's avatar

Too busy to check, @janbb: I am frantically Stereo typing.

(But you are right. It is “first served.”)

JackAdamstimestamp?
Stranger in a strange land?

Atom's avatar

Americans are the cruelest people in the world – with love from SillyGirl.

digitalimpression's avatar

The fact that someone is “new” really has no bearing on how I answer. For all I know the person isn’t “new” at all.

SpatzieLover's avatar

@Atom: Why do you come back to complain? Why not just ask & answer?

Atom's avatar

@SpatzieLover where did I complain?...I just want to know why my questions were gone?

gailcalled's avatar

I bet that the mods told you that they went to editing.

“All Americans”? All 313 million people? That must have been an exhaustive and exhausting research project.

wundayatta's avatar

And where are you from, @Atom?

Coloma's avatar

@Atom Well then, take your spamelope out onto the Savannah and wait for the Cheetahs.

Atom's avatar

@Coloma as you wish….:)

wundayatta's avatar

@Atom South Africa?

Atom's avatar

@gailcalled no not the few I see as family…

gailcalled's avatar

@Atom: Is English your native language?

Atom's avatar

@gailcalled no English is not my native tongue – what does it matter – the hurt is done..

Coloma's avatar

@Atom If you are infact who you say you are then my apologies, and welcome.

linguaphile's avatar

Sounds like QueenofNowhere.

jca's avatar

Can someone fill in a Fluther outsider like myself and tell me who it is, please?

Trillian's avatar

Depends on how stupid the question is. I try to leave them alone but sometime I can’t help but take a swipe. Some just beg for a dick punch.
Has nothing to do with how new a tro, I mean a person is.

ninjacolin's avatar

I think it can be fun to gang up on newbies or oldies alike. :P
I think it can be done in a way that isn’t too damaging..

wundayatta's avatar

And I like to defend the underdog. No. It’s not really the underdog. Maybe the maligned? Woefully misunderstood? I do so enjoy getting dick punched ;-)

I have found that if I am kind to most of the people everyone else likes to dick-punch, that they tell me things that indicate there is more to the story. I don’t think they are pulling the wool over my eyes. I just wish people would hold back the “troll” card a little longer and be more tolerant of people who don’t write so well. You can tell when they aren’t native English speakers. You can also tell when they have non-American points of view. I do think Americans are a bit bullyish, in general, around the world, and I see it here, too, in how we often treat the young foreigners who are pretty insecure and overcompensate for it.

CWOTUS's avatar

To paraphrase Groucho Marx on the topic,

“I would not be a member of a gang that I was permitted to join.” No one here would have me, anyway.

wundayatta's avatar

Oh Piffle, @CWOTUS. I’d buy you a beer any day of the week.

Except Tuesday. I don’t drink beer on Tuesdays. It’s against Atheism.

blueiiznh's avatar

Only if it helps get lurve. yikes, this looks like I missed a lurve fest.

tom_g's avatar

@Atom: “Do you gang up on new people when a silly question hits a nerve?”

You’ve typed approximately 50 total characters here on fluther and you’ve used the “hits a nerve” phrase? Flag on the play.

linguaphile's avatar

@Atom- if you are genuine, then please understand that you triggered a lot of red flags here and that’s where we’re coming from. If you aren’t genuine, then the game’s afoot!

SpatzieLover's avatar

@tom_g Did you see the deleted @Atom question prior to deletion?

NEVERMIND @Atom is gone

tom_g's avatar

@SpatzieLover – I believe so. Wasn’t it some nonsensical question about eating plants or something? I believe my comment was: “cute”.

tom_g's avatar

@SpatzieLover: “NEVERMIND @Atom is gone”

I miss him/her already.

YARNLADY's avatar

I would not hesitate to give an honest answer even if several other Jellies gave the same answer.

FutureMemory's avatar

@gailcalled I would love to gang up on some people if I could only find three other people to join my gang. Any takers?

I thought the two of us were a gang? :/

gailcalled's avatar

@FutureMemory: We are officially a duumvirate. However,Milo is the eminence grise.

janbb's avatar

@gailcalled @FutureMemory Hey kids – can I join the gang?

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Uhoh, what the heck happened?

That comment that says ”-with love from SillyGirl” really makes me think that was SillGirl from wis.dm long ago. If that’s the case, she really doesn’t understand English very well. I know because I used to talk to her on wis.dm all the time, and I talked to her on the phone once.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Maybe this is a case of a Turritopsis nutricula.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

@WillWorkForChocolate: I was thinking of wis sillygirl too. hmm.

For what it’s worth @atom, when I first joined this site then there were what seemed liked constant annoying responses that were nothing more than grammar corrections. It pissed me off that people had nothing better to offer than that but eventually they laid off me. There is good ebb and flow here if you decide to give it a go.

zensky's avatar

I am a one man gang.

Wasn’t there a wrestler…?

jca's avatar

I am a one woman gang.

CWOTUS's avatar

I am a navy of one.

SillyGirl's avatar

Thank you for sending me my forgotten password – I am SillyGirl from wis.dm. I don’t spell well and my grammar is not good at all. But one thing I am not and that is stupid. I speak read and write in three languages. I am not well educated but I am well read…I am a high school dropout not proud of it but it is as it is…:)

gailcalled's avatar

@SillyGirl: Simply mention in your profile that English is not your native tongue; everyone will cut you some slack.

There is the use of language, of course, but there is also the choice of of Q & A content.

SillyGirl's avatar

@gailcalled thank you for the great advice I will do as you say…:)

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Hello, darling Silly Girl!!!! <3
<—- Nina

SillyGirl's avatar

Hello Nina…:))

zensky's avatar

Hi SillyGirl !

<<< Zen

Sunny2's avatar

I’m late, but I brought pop corn! Silly is fine. I pass on self-centered narcissism.

gailcalled's avatar

^^Hrmm. Is there any other kind of narcissism?

gailcalled's avatar

^^Props for graciousness

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@SillyGirl that will work, glad to meet ya.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@Atom… SillyGirl????? Please…is that you?? Shit! It is!! Hey girl!!!
<<<<<Dutchess. (In case you couldn’t figure it out. :)

Dutchess_III's avatar

You were always too hard on yourself @SillyGirl. Always. You’re just fine, honey.

SillyGirl's avatar

i know who gave you your avatar Dutchess…:)

zensky's avatar

Psst – I’ve changed since wis.dm

nonexpert's avatar

All these people migrating from, and chatting about, other Q&A sites is sounding incestuous. Fluther = Fluther.

PS: Why call yourself SillyGirl if you specifically say you’re not stupid?

Atom's avatar

@nonexpert….Silly = pulling faces at your family in the review mirror – Stupid = when you stick your finger up your butt and tasting it.

Atom's avatar

@zensky I’ve become more mature, slightly wiser and way sillier…:)

gailcalled's avatar

Stupid = when you stick your finger up your butt and tasting it.

“More mature,” you say?

CWOTUS's avatar

Psst again. @zensky changes on a seasonal basis.

Response moderated
gailcalled's avatar

@Atom: Did you write that yourself or did you borrow it? If so, please list source.

And yes, I do know it is the Peace rose, from my daughter’s garden.

SillyGirl's avatar

oops I don’t know why but I was still able to use my Atom account that I deleted!..:)

gailcalled's avatar

Don’t worry about that.
Do give us the attribution for the Peace rose essay.

SillyGirl's avatar

@gailcalled no I did not write it….may I ask why are you so mean to me?

SillyGirl's avatar

@gailcalled so sorry I just want you to be a little kinder…..

digitalimpression's avatar

@Atom What a beautiful work of plagerism you’ve got there.

SillyGirl's avatar

@digitalimpression did I not say here above that I did not write it….I come in peace..:)

digitalimpression's avatar

@SillyGirl or @Atom or @??
My apologies, I have no idea which one is the real you.

gailcalled's avatar

Where? Is the source “For a Love of a Rose”? You have to indicate that with a link to be completely kosher.

SillyGirl's avatar

@gailcalled can I be rather forward and as you to consider to gift the book to your daughter or you could get it from the library and read it to your grandchildren…..:)

SillyGirl's avatar

@digitalimpression I’d rather be SillyGirl….I had problems with my password hence the Atom account..:)

Dutchess_III's avatar

And I know where you got your avatar, Silly Girl! Hey..I really wanted to use the one of your kids at the aquarium, but I wanted to be sure it was OK with you first…

Hey…these guys can be kind of rough on newcomers. They don’t really take time to show them the ropes…what the expectations are on here. Some of them just jump on newbies for breaking a “rule” that the newbie had no way of knowing they had. That’s why so many of us left right away after the first wave, after Wis.dm died. :(

One rule is, that when ever you quote another source, you must include the name of that source, or, preferably, a link to the source.

Also, on Wis.dm we posted to each individual person. On here, they don’t like to see the same user posting a bunch of times in a row. So, to be Fluther-correct you should go:

*************************************************************************************

@gailcalled can I be rather forward and as you to consider to gift the book to your daughter or you could get it from the library and read it to your grandchildren…..:)

@digitalimpression I’d rather be SillyGirl….I had problems with my password hence the Atom account..:)

Here is my source: http://www.gerbera.org/gardening-magazine/the-gardener-index/june-2005/peace-rose/ the source…:)))))
*************************************************************************************

Ya gotta pack it all into one post or they’ll [REDACTED] :) :) [REDACTED] is an old Fluther joke, meaning you just said something VERY BAD!

Now, can we all join hands and welcome this very special person to Fluther? Can we show her around our village until she gets the hang of it? And NO taking her off in corners and beating her with rubber hoses until you’re sure she already knows better!! And even then, pad the hose with super soft stuff, please.

@gailcalled…I’m betting you will be invaluable in gently showing her the nuances of the English language.

gailcalled's avatar

^^How about emoticons?

CWOTUS's avatar

Kumbaya.

Dutchess_III's avatar

: ) <<——emoticon. :)

Dutchess_III's avatar

O, and BTW @SillyGirl, in response to your comment “I know who gave you your avatar Dutchess…:)….you need to post on your profile “I am an amazing photographer!“_ :)

zensky's avatar

One more word and I’m deleting my account.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Ahhhhhh!!!!!!

wundayatta's avatar

I would just like to ask people to keep the safety on the troll gun a bit longer in general. Or even leave the troll gun locked up in the gun cabinet.

People can come off strong at first and then it turns out they are ok people once we give them a chance to become known. Hell, in some cases they turn out to be long lost friends for a significant group of jellies.

Please.

Blackberry's avatar

The fuck happened here?

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

A lovely person apparently had some difficulties posting a few questions, because English is not her first language. She was jumped on and beaten down by a few really rude people because of those difficulties. She continued to be beaten down because she did not yet understand “rules” about posting links and citing sources and such.

SpatzieLover's avatar

Yet the writing style still looks so familiar, as did the first modded question.

Dutchess_III's avatar

She was here with the first wave, long time ago,@SpatzieLover, although that probably doesn’t account for it. It’s Silly Girl. She is just awesome. And gone, I guess. :(

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I don’t think she’s gone. I asked her to please stay and she agreed… perhaps she’ll log in tomorrow.

Just for informational purposes, SillyGirl may not write in perfect English, and she may not understand a lot of “internet rules” that we’re used to, but she is one of the sweetest, most genuine people, with a generous heart. Please treat her kindly.

lillycoyote's avatar

Hi @SillyGirl

And @WillWorkForChocolate, @SillyGirl is one of the sweetest, most genuine people, with one of the most generous hearts you will ever find.

Anyone who messes with SillyGirl… I’ll kick all of your asses! I mean it!

Dutchess_III's avatar

OK. Now we are three. We Will Kick Ass on behalf of @SillyGirl. We are the the… Chocolate Coyote Dutchess’ from…from…well. That’s all we are. The Chocolate Coyote Dutchess’..... No, wait! We are The Chocolate Coyote Dutchess’ with Zen!! Got Zen? Got Shovel? Anyone want to join our gang?

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I just sharpened my shovel today. It’s ready.

lillycoyote's avatar

@Dutchess_III and @WillWorkForChocolate, sorry, I was busy watching @gailcalled‘s combination live sex show and tennis tournament “First Come, First Serve.” Innovative, to say the least.

More than enough mistakes to go around. And mockery too, if people want and choose to play that way.

Duchess’ Chocolate Coyotes? That doesn’t sound very menacing either.

janbb's avatar

Can I buy some of them next Easter?

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@lillycoyote ROFL! Seriously… I’m crying with laughter and falling out of my chair right now!

lillycoyote's avatar

@janbb Maybe. If this whole kicking people’s asses thing doesn’t work out for the team that might be a good plan B. Duchess’ Chocolate Coyotes

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@lillycoyote Oh, the kicking ass thing would definitely work. I just got new boots and have been breaking them in this week; they would really benefit from kicking some ass. And they look as though they would kick ass rather well.

lillycoyote's avatar

I have to run an errand. Pharmacy closes at 10pm. Back soon. Sorry

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, OK. “The Chocolate Coyotes Gang” just doesn’t sound so tuff does it. Well with the proceeds from the sales of Chocolate Coyotes we can build @SillyGirl a safe house. :) ....ROFL!! I just read your post @WillWorkForChocolate, as I was getting ready to post this one. I saw “I just got new boots and have been breathing them in this week” I thought…oh Gawd! She won’t need no shovel!! Yes Lilly. Stock up on them steroids. Gets some all around. Muhaaaaa!

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

We’ll slip the steroids into the chocolate coyotes and give them to new gang initiates.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Now we’re on to something. Chocolate Coyote Steroids Gang. And we also have a penguin who just joined our gang. Man, we will be _unstoppable!!__.

lillycoyote's avatar

We can also build a big Trojan Coyote and hide inside it.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I didn’t know coyotes used condoms.

lillycoyote's avatar

Coyotes have to condoms because scientist have still not come up with another reliable form of coyote birth control. Sure coyotes would rather go au natural but it beats taking a bullet.”

blueiiznh's avatar

I thought coyote birth control was done with a loop trap

SillyGirl's avatar

Now there is the spirit I missed!!!......and thanks xxxxxxx.:D

wundayatta's avatar

Just want to point out that I was the first person to defend her on this thread, and I didn’t know who she was. It is possible to recognize good qualities in a person just based on a question if one does not have that “troll” mindset. I would encourage us to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and to learn to recognize when people have trouble with English. It really is pretty obvious.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@wundayatta You and I actually agreeing on something? Hell must have frozen over, so where’s that devil so I can buy a snow cone?

wundayatta's avatar

@WillWorkForChocolate I didn’t say it, but I have long suspected that you and I would have a good time together. Yeah, sparks might fly, but I bet we’d be entertained. And how is it truly possible to hold a grudge against someone who puts it right out there that they are will to work for chocolate?

Oh yeah, what flavor? I’ve got chocolate snow cones, but only for the cognoscenti, ahahahahahahahaha!

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I prefer Tiger’s Blood snow cones.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I have tiger blood. And Adonis DNA. AND chocolate coyotes. Who also have Adonis DNA.

Thanks for the shout out @wundayatta. :)

Dutchess_III's avatar

@SillyGirl Yes. :) It feels like old home week, doesn’t it!

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