@Blackberry Thanks. I completely agree—especially since their God supposedly told them in Isaiah 55:9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
@Supacase In some instances, intersex babies present easily recognized aspects of both genders that delivery room personnel or parents easily recognize. In others they do not. The condition can range from a someone who is basically male having an ovary to someone who, like this individual, has a external genitalia of one sort but internal plumbing for the other sex as well. This individual did have Y chromosomes and was thus able to produce sperm capable of producing a male child. But the female hormones had made the person always feel like they weren’t quite right as a male.
@Judi Thanks for a great song.
@Bent I’m actually an agnostic. I am an agnostic. I asked how God could condone intersex babies to challenge the religious types who seem intent on forcing their own interpretations of theology upon everyone else via the power of government.
@bewailknot Sad that even when presented with facts, so many will turn away lest their cherished beliefs be shaken. But the AP in question sounds far more enlightened than Pastor Worley, whom I asked about here several days ago.
@wallabies Indeed. Spoken in true Ted Kennedy form. Only Teddy would have probably said “God scrod.” thinking about a local Massachusetts seafood delicacy.
@jerv The link I shared with @bewailknot provides ample example of the fact we can’t assume we’re dealing with rational people.
@cazzie Willful ignorance is the worst kind. I can easily forgive those who are not bright or who are ill informed. Those who intentionally remain ill informed do not deserve forgiveness. They have committed the sin that is unto death.
@WillWorkForChocolate Thanks.
I think @wallabies was joking and the joke probably goes back before your time. In 1990 during a heated senate debate on a Civil Rights act, Republicans were trying to derail the bill claiming it would lead to “Quotas.” To show how silly it was to put concerns such as quotas above concerns for equality, Kennedy rose and said, “Quotas, schmotas!” adding that the “false cry of quotas” is a “disreputable tactic.” See the bottom paragraph here.
@bea2345 I follow what you are saying, but the whole touchy-feely side of Christianity isn’t actually very biblical. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob called for stoning to death all who did a very amazingly long list of things. Virtually all of us have transgressed more than one of the death sentence sins.
And while the Christian Church of today finds it an inconvenient truth and prefers Constantinanity (the Gospel according to Emperor Constantine, who revamped early Jewish Christian cult paractices so he could use them to persecute the Jews and to cement his control of the known ancient world) Jesus did say in Matt 5:18, “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” I asked about that fact here.
@zenvelo The premise of the question is regarding the Abrahamic God, and he did not say that everything is all love. He is purported to have said in Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Read Romans 1:18–29. Lesbians are to be stoned to death too. Mind you, I find the Great Unicorn creation theory superior to the God of Abraham one, since less has been falsified about that creation story. But I do know what the book says.
@bkcunningham I do not think they should be punished. Clearly, Pastor Worley and folks like Fred Phelps
@tups If there is a God, s/he doesn’t seem to intervene to enforce any particular will. I’ve never heard of effect not following cause.
@josie That word has changed in meaning again and again over time. Nobody has the authority to freeze it now. Language is a living thing, always evolving. Here is the first sentence of Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales in its original Middle English, circa 1,400;
“Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote”
It’s hard to tell what that even means now, and if you read past line one it gets rather impossible to decipher. In fact the link provides a modern English translation side by side for just that reason. Words change. Meanings and spellings evolve.
And to compare marriage equality with pure socialism is abhorrent.
@incendiary_dan Roger that.