Who is Lucifer in the Bible?

Which religion’s members know the Bible best?

Can you think of a religion where the members seem to be familiar with the whole Bible? Not just certain scriptures?

Most religions believe Lucifer (also known as Beelzebub) to be one of God’s angels that learned to be arrogant and rebelled against God, and was cast out of Heaven. Upon being cast out he became known as the devil.

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Jehovah’s witnesses are known to be familiar with the Bible all over the world. People may or may not agree with me on this however.
As far as I know, Lucifer is the same as Satan the Devil, it’s just his different name.
But Lucifer as a name or with its pronunciation, is not seen anywhere in the Bible, it’s not even Hebrew, which is one of the languages used to write the Bible. And it doesn’t sound much like Greek-also one of the Bible languages-to me either.
A big percentage of arguments regarding Bible is due to different interpretations of it. So I guess there’s no one who could give you a direct answer to this. It’s up to you to decide if it means what people say it means.

I believe he’s called Nicky, little guy.

Lucifer was Satan’s name when he was still chillin’ with God in heaven as one of his angels. He didn’t become known as Satan til after he and god had beef, at which time God said “Yo, fuck this punk ass bitch” and sent him to the hot place down below. True talk.

A mistranslation of a phrase about a Babylonian king. Not Satan, Not the Devil, Not a fallen angel.

Since you have three questions here, I’ll answer them in sequence.

1. “True” is a rather elastic term when you’re talking about Bronze age mythology.
The American Protestant Christian division of modern followers equates “Lucifer” with a fallen angel who was given dominion over earth, later to be called Satan. Some Biblical scholars agree, some disagree, but it’s all mythology and there’s no hard evidence for any of it.

2. In my experience, atheists tend to read the bible for context more than most devotees. I refer to the Bible as something like a software license: no one reads it, they just scroll to the bottom and click “I agree”. That said, the most impressive “Bible Knowledge” by a devotee I can think of was demonstrated by a travelling evangelist from the United Pentecostal Church, International. He had memorized the entire Acts of the Apostles.

3. Again, atheists.

Then there are the books of the Bible that were left out when Constantine and his bunch decided what would comprise the official book or the canon (e.g., the Gospel of Thomas).

I don’t recall seeing the name Lucifer in the Bible. People do use that as a name for the devil.

You asked several good questions here. You shouldn’t lump them into one question here.
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This isn’t on topic, but I always think of Mick Jagger when this question comes up.

@JenniferP, I’m actually not sure that the name “Lucifer” even appears in the Bible. I think that name comes from a later Catholic tradition. But it is obviously identified with the being called Satan in the Bible.

The name Satan comes from the Hebrew word meaning “He who opposes.” Satan first shows up in the book of Job (one of the earliest books of the Bible), where he is portrayed almost as God’s annoying sidekick.

According to Christian tradition, the serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan, but this is stated nowhere in the actual text of Genesis. In fact, Satan is not really an important figure at all in the old testament. God seems to have other adversaries to deal with—for example, some of the Psalms portray God as “defeating the sea” and “conquering Leviathan.” The Jewish god Yahweh, in this sense, is similar to other Mesopotamian deities who often fight epic battles with watery deities before creating the world. (The best known example is the Babylonian god Marduk, who must defeat the ocean goddess Tiamat).

Satan is a much bigger deal in the New Testament. There he is a pervasive evil spirit who tempts Jesus, who lurks around corners to tempt you into sin—at one point Paul even blames Satan for delaying his travel.

Later Christian tradition had a much more developed idea of angels and demons, and my understanding is that “Lucifer” is a name that means “lord of light” and is meant to show that Satan was once a powerful angel who was cast down. But again, I don’t think these ideas are actually found in the Bible.

ragingloli is correct. Lucifer is not called Satan in the Bible. Sorry about putting the 3 questions together. I meant to send three questions separate. I am new here.

Analysis here.

@Qingu “Lucifer” means “light-bringer in Latin, analogous to Phosphoros used in the Greek translation of the Hebrew Helel ben Shahar.
Another possibility is the is a more direct connection via Venus, called Lucifer by enough people to make it stick. Venus is sometimes called the Day Star, which is the term used in Isaiah 14:12 to refer to pre-fall Satan.

You also won’t find “Christimas” in the Bible, either.

I am Lucifer. :)

@Nullo
That refers to the King of Babylon.

The point everybody is missing is that if there was a Lucifer who was one of the angels who grew arrogant and rebelled creating a two thousand year cold war that is inevitable to blow up into an Armageddon then at second glance one would have to conclude that God and his creation isn’t perfect as has been reported.. Why for instance would a creator put up with such nonsense when in the beginning all was perfect in God’s eye.. Perfection is eternal to a creator, not limited as in man’s existence. Reading the history of religion and it’s soap like opera, it’s a wonder God didn’t snuff everything out on the eighth day as a good idea gone bad.

SATAN!! the devillll.