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Is anyone else seriously concerned that Romney might actually win?

Asked by livelaughlove21 (15724points) October 25th, 2012 from iPhone

I’ve never been a really political person, but I’ve been paying a little more attention in this election and I’m getting pretty nervous that Romney might be our new president.

I’m trying to keep track of the polls, but it’s confusing. They all have different numbers and a 1 or 2 point difference doesn’t seem like much to me.

My biggest worry is that, if he does win, it’ll be because of the rampant “anyone but Obama” mindset. Few Romney supporters seem to really support him, but rather the Republican Party in general.

I just can’t believe anyone is fooled by this man. Obama’s no saint, but Romney? No…just no.

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

OOH YAH. I don’t make 6 million dollars a year to break even from where I am now. And don’t need to go back the the ‘40’s . . . that’s the 1840’s.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

I’ve voted in every election except one off year election since my freshmen year in college. There’s a huge anyone but Obama mindset amongst our population. Republicans have done a great job making sure nothing happens in congress regardless of who gets hurt. Look at the farm bill, or lack thereof. In a year that was a disaster for farmers. I’m very worried.

zenvelo's avatar

I worry about it, that people won’t go vote for Obama. Or that the storm next week will mess things up enough to keep people from voting.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

I am white, and most of my work history involves large, multinational financial firms.

So, I won’t be happy for America, but not personally worried, as I know Romney intends to spoil me.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought That made me laugh. I know now a few vultures will make it big and get rich. But will you pay any taxes on those riches?

YARNLADY's avatar

It does worry me, but we somehow survived the Bushes, so I guess it wouldn’t be the end of the world. I’m voting for Obama.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe Pay attention sir. Romney intends to spoil me. Taxes are for the little people.

wundayatta's avatar

I’m worried, but for the moment, the polls show Obama as the victor in an extremely close election. Unfortunately, since it is extremely close, all it takes is for the polls to be a little bit off, and reality will turn out differently. Also, something could happen at the last moment to swing things either way.

There are a lot of polls, and there are a lot of models of how the polls reflect reality. 538 is a blog run by a statistician who factors in other things besides polls in making his estimation of who will will. But things change every election cycle, and you never know if there are relevant things that you are factoring in properly.

There are election “markets” where people place bets on who will win and by how much. They are showing Obama as the victor right now. There are polls. There are the economic factors. There are all the other predictors like whether the Redskins win the last game before the election. I forget who that is supposed to be good for, but it is no longer got a perfect track record.

The key thing is to vote. If Obama gets out all his supporters, he should win. They are the ones who are the unlikely voters. The ones the polls don’t count. If the unlikely voters vote, then Obama wins. So vote, and make sure all your friends vote, too. It doesn’t matter if they are Republican or Democrat or Independent. More voters are in favor of Obama, but a lot of them don’t vote. So if you get someone out to vote who wasn’t going to, it is most likely you are getting another vote for Obama.

Rarebear's avatar

I think he might win but I’m not worried about it.

Linda_Owl's avatar

I am worried that Romney might win the election… especially since Romney has control of the company that supplies the voting machines for several states & counts the votes. I am also concerned that too many voters are buying the BS that the Republicans are selling.

Mariah's avatar

Yep. I was really disheartened the other day when, on Facebook, an ulcerative colitis group that I’m a member of posted asking for UC patients’ opinions on “Obamacare” (which is, personally, my favorite thing about Obama). I thought no one who’s familiar with the struggles of chronic illness could possibly be against universal health care, right? How wrong I was…scared the hell out of me and also made me very sad. If my fellow UC sufferers can’t have empathy for me and other chronically ill people, how can I expect the general population to do so?

I’m really worried now that Romney winning has become such a realistic possibility. I will be so, so sad to see the changes to healthcare go down the drain if that happens.

YARNLADY's avatar

@Mariah I have an irrational hope that the Republicans will immediately instate a nearly identical plan. -

jonsblond's avatar

Yes. Soda, alcohol and coffee will become illegal if he wins. I’m moving to Canada.~

jaytkay's avatar

Yes I am concerned.

Bush II was a disaster. They wrecked the country. And Romney wants to put the same people in charge again.

Everything I have paid into Medicare and Social Security is in danger. The Republicans have long been working to eliminate both.

It took a couple of decades, but Republicans managed to pack the Supreme Court with the ideologues who made into law Romney’s dream of “corporations are people”.

I could go on and on but it’s too depressing.

I’ll do what I can and hope we can keep a smart President who is working to make life better for most Americans. I voted today. I’m working the phones for Obama.

Jeruba's avatar

If everybody who’s worried will get up and go vote, I think we’ll be all right. To me there’s a real danger in people’s thinking it won’t matter and not bothering.

DrBill's avatar

I wish there was someone running that was worth voting for.

Mariah's avatar

@Jeruba I’ve got my absentee ballot. I’m pleased as punch that I get to vote in a purple state.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@DrBill I disagree. Obama is the first guy I have ever been pleased to vote for. Perhaps there is dissatisfaction in some quarters, but I haven’t felt that with my candidate.

JLeslie's avatar

Nope. If he wins, I am not very worried about it.

I think Obama will win if I have to guess.

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

Anyone who votes based on their own careful consideration rather than blindly following ill-informed and dishonest fake arguments circulated by political pundits who invent or repeat opinions with no rational basis will have many good reasons to have grave concerns of the long-term harmful effects that would result if Governor Romney is elected President.

Despite his current phony self-representation as a moderate, all one has to do is to contrast his public declaration during the primaries will what he pretends to support in the late stage of the campaign.

Who has the most to fear if Mitt Romney wins?
– Anyone who is not among the very wealthy
-Women who insist that only their physician and they themselves should have anything to say about their reproductive system
-Anyone who will need to depend on Medicare and Social Security when they retire
-Anyone who will suffer if their employer moves all the jobs offshore
-Anyone represented by organized labour (unions) in the workplace
-Members of the working middle class whose tax burden will rise so the very rich can continue to avoid paying their fair share
-Anyone currently dependent on welfare who wants to be able to return to productive work when the economy recovers
-Anyone who is disabled
-Anyone who will face poverty, homelessness, and declining health and premature death when they have to retire several years from now.
-Anyone at risk of losing their home due to foreclosure or extreme rent increases
-Anyone who wants their children to benefit from an excellent public education system
-Anyone who wants to be able to get the health care they or their family members require without the risk of financial ruin

I’m sure there are many other valid additions that could be proposed as additions to the above list.

gondwanalon's avatar

Yes I’m worried that Romney might actually win in that if he does then large riots will likely erupt in the big cities. The liberal media will likely fan the flames of the burning cities with propaganda on how the Republicans stole the election with voter fraud. But in reality if Romney wins then it will be in spite of voter fraud. Yes I’m voting for Romney but my vote won’t count as I live in liberal Washington State where Obama will easily get all 12 electoral votes.

ETpro's avatar

If Romney wins and does what he has said he planned to do, going ush’s policies and war mongering only doing it all in overdrive, then he drive the economy off the cliff again like Bush did, only this time he’ll crash it in overdrive and we’ll already be so deep in debt from digging our way out of the last disaster that this one will probably be a second great depression and drag the whole world down.

Imagine the disaster if Americans had voted Republicans back in in 1936 because FDR had been in office for four whole years and hadn’t fixed the disaster the Republicans brought us in 1929.

jaytkay's avatar

…if Romney wins then it will be in spite of voter fraud…

Pfffft

Democrats suck at voter fraud

All the best vote and registration fraudsters work for Republicans.

Third instance of voter registration dumping found in Virginia
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/third-instance-of-voter-registration-dumping-found-in-virginia/

“How to Rig an Election: The G.O.P. aims to paint the country red”
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2012/10/hbc-90008943

GOP admits it wants to making it more difficult to vote
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/you-gotta-fight-for-your-right-to-vote

4 GOP staffers indicted in “blatant and disgraceful” election fraud
http://politic365.com/2012/08/09/4-republican-staffers-indicted-for-blatant-and-disgraceful-voter-fraud-in-michigan/

Proven GOP voter fraud.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convicted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=1

More GOP fraud. This time in Massachusetts
http://www.wgbhnews.org/post/galvin-calls-voter-fraud-allegations-pretty-extreme

GOP voter fraud in Texas
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Fort-Bend-candidate-voted-twice-in-same-3937458.php

More suspicious voter forms found in Florida – After reports of irregularities, state GOP fires company hired to register people (Virginia Republicans immediately hired the firm)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49227596/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/#.UGjV_hi7ZGY

Columbus Ohio GOP Chair Opposes More Early Voting, Saying It Helps African-Americans
“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban – read African-American – voter-turnout machine,” said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. “Let’s be fair and reasonable.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-poll-hours-isnt-just-political.html

ETpro's avatar

@jaytkay I’ve found that with Republicans all you need to do to find out what crimes and dirty tricks they are up to is listen to what they obsess about their opposition doing.

Pandora's avatar

@ETpro LOL, like the cheating spouse who accuses their spouse. So true.
@livelaughlove21 Yes, I am concerned as well. Unfortunately all I can do is add my vote for Obama and pray it is enough, or that at least the majority party will not be republican where they can all huddle and destroy our country. My whole family is definitely voting for Obama. Even my mom and she doesn’t even care for Obama but she knows Romney will destroy it to save himself and his special interest (rich people) groups from being taxed fairly.

Brenna_o's avatar

This election I support nobody

livelaughlove21's avatar

I’m in the exact opposite situation as @gondwanalon. South Carolina hasn’t voted blue since 1976.

Sunny2's avatar

I’m very afraid because I think the Republican beliefs will ruin the country. It’s been said before, but G.W. Bush and his cronies were responsible for our economic problems and getting us into a war without figuring out the funding. More of that? No thanks.

Berserker's avatar

I guess there’s that ’‘anyone except Obama’’ thing going on. (not that I would have been able to tell from this thread, which is cool) I’m not American, but if I was, I’d adopt the ’‘anyone but Romney’’ mentality haha. I denno much about politics, let alone ones that aren’t from my country, but it’s gonna suck if he wins, a lot more than it would if Obama did, so Obama would get my vote. Maybe he isn’t the best president ever, but he beats Romney by miles, at least as far as I can tell from the frozen North.

ucme's avatar

I’m not in the slightest bit worried either way, but Obama will get a second term, no question.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@ucme Why are you so sure of that?

ucme's avatar

My magic 8 ball said so much & common sense almost always prevails…...even in eeh-merry-ka.

hearkat's avatar

Yes. The issue with Tagg Romney being part owner of many voting machines in Ohio has me very worried.

Among my friends, the vast majority are against Romney and the Republican party. However, the same was true in 2000, when G.W. Bush stole the election from Al Gore – prior to that election, I thought there was no way Bush could possibly win… people could see what an idiot puppet he was, yes? Apparently not.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@ucme Uh, ok…? I was hoping for a real answer but I guess that’ll have to do.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@livelaughlove21 ucme isn’t that in touch with the US. He’s an ocean away. This one’s a coin toss. Plus throw in the storm hitting the northeast. That may throw this one to Romney.

CWOTUS's avatar

Ah, you guys are always good for a laugh.

Blackberry's avatar

Bush was elected twice, although he also had the fuel of close minded americans still bent on revenge against arabs and muslims.

From what I’ve heard from some conservatives I know, Romney will have support from the “The economy wasnt fixed in four years so Romney will do it because he’s a business man and knows what he’s doing” crowd. Needless to say this crowd of voters isn’t the brightest. :(

ucme's avatar

@livelaughlove21 I like you, you’re silly!

AngryWhiteMale's avatar

@Blackberry, no, a small correction there: Bush was appointed (or selected, if you will) the first time, thanks to a 5–4 decision that amounted to a coup d’état that we’ll all be paying for for a long, long time. As for 2004, assuming Ohio (among other places) was legit, he was indeed elected. But given “friends” like Diebold, I, for one, question whether he was elected.

DrBill's avatar

There are several that need to change their name to LOL. (Loft Of Lenin)

Mariah's avatar

@CWOTUS Care to explain instead of just condescendingly waltzing in here and proclaiming how amusing our personal beliefs are to you?

Jaxk's avatar

It’s almost funny that so many would be afraid that the economy might turn around with a Romney victory. That is what this election is about. Stick with what has obviously failed or try something that has always worked. For a group that claims to want change, why would you suddenly want to stick with recession. We’re going off the cliff kids. A little change might be worth evaluating.

wundayatta's avatar

Sorry @Jaxk. We may be right or we may be wrong, but we believe that going back to the policies of George Bush would kill the recovery and send us back into another recession. Romney’s policies would help the rich, but be disaster for the rest of us.

How you can not see that, I have no idea, but you have a lot of company. A lot of people don’t understand economics in this country, including many who believe they have a good economic education.

Still, I will admit there is room for people of good will to disagree. It’s a disagreement. Let’s hope you never get a chance to prove us right.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

It was the policies of Bush that pointed our economy at the cliff and put the pedal down. Yeah Lehman Brothers will collapse. If you said that 10 years ago you’d have been committed to an asylum. But turn them totally loose, with no controls and guess who’s no longer with us. I was in banking for 12 years. I met a lot of dumb bankers. We’re gaining now, steadily. The private sector is continually adding jobs, but the public sector has been cutting jobs almost as fast. That’s why the jobs numbers look the way they do. Romney knows this, He just lies continually.

DrBill's avatar

I’ve heard a lot of bad things about both candidates. The only difference is one side is the things they are afraid of what Romney might do, and the other side is afraid Obama will continue to do what he has done

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@DrBill Oh come on. You know what Romney is going to do. Give me a break.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

No, that wasn’t a GA. Sorry DrBill. My temper got the best of me. You’re entitled to your opinion.

DrBill's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe

Thank you, and you are also entitled to yours

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Democracy works as long as we respect the opinion of others, and we agree that if 51 percent of the voters want Romney, he’s our president. I don’t have to like it, but I’m not ready for a situation like Syria.

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