@Tropical_Willie So you desperately want more border control, but you don’t want it to cost anything? I hear what you are saying, but I don’t see where it goes as relates to border security. If you really believe that the government wastes 3 dollars for every 1 it spends effectively, why wouldn’t you focus your attention on eliminating government waste? Also, if you really believe that, why are the administrative costs of Medicare coverage dramatically lower than those of private insurance companies? The costs are not as much lower as partisan cheerleaders may claim, but they are, in fact, substantially lower. That’s hard to square with a claim that government always wastes 3 out of every 4 tax dollars it collects.
@PaulSadieMartin OK. I grok that.
@marinelife There are an infinite number of data points between 0% (utter failure) and 100% (absolute perfection). I made the point that it can’t be perfect, and that Republicans continue to dither, favoring doing nothing until it is perfect. But clearly, it can get better, and it can also get worse. How much we apply in resources influences that outcome. The Obama Administration increased border security and got results but at a price. The question is how good do you think it should get, and how much are you willing to pay to get there.
@elbanditoroso I totally agree.
@bolwerk I don’t know about it being the easiest thing in the world, but Federally issued work permits available only to US Citizens or documented aliens, and requiring proof of citizneship, would go a long way toward solving the issue. That would also decimate the farm industry, and that’s why Republicans talk tough but set up standards to act that keep us forever paralyzed.
@PaulSadieMartin Damn, that’s a truth.
@Jaxk Did you stop reading the OP before this part, “Where, between 100% airtight and as porous as today’s border is, do you see the cost/benefit equation coming down?” That doesn’t look like an all-or-nothing setup to me.
@GloriaEstefan Would that apply even if she’s here legally and other family members would be separated from her? Why is speaking English that important to you?
@Lightlyseared Agreed, except for the flight I am on where an Air Marshal foils a hijack attempt. :-)
@zenvelo Yep, Georgia and Arizona sure found that out with their Papers Please laws.
@wundayatta I’d surely pay more to get rid of homeland security. BTW, demographers now speculate that the total human population of Earth may begin to shrink in the not-too-distant future. Given that and the automatic adjustment of immigration to where most job openings are, this might be another of those self correcting problems. The total US illegal immigrant population is already down by about $1 million.
@Blondesjon & @wundayatta Cain I get a Awmen?
@johnpowell That’s about where I come down on this too.