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Inspired_2write's avatar

In the Nostradamus Prophecies is the part about the small country that wages war on the world North Korea?

Asked by Inspired_2write (14486points) April 5th, 2013

Or has this past already with both World War I and II?

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ragingloli's avatar

Or maybe it was England during the time they waged war on the world to build their empire.

Inspired_2write's avatar

It is very hard to determine What Nostradameus was referring to.
But todays development with North Korea, reminded me of a documentary on his Prophecies.
Seems a coincidence of puzzle pieces?

gorillapaws's avatar

@Inspired_2write The keyword there is “coincidence” which is how all predictions work. They’re generic enough to eventually come true, and yet generic enough to be a high probability hit without seeming like it.

janbb's avatar

No – it’s Freedonia.

Inspired_2write's avatar

But there is more on it.
This seer even mentioned about a dark skinned President who promotes peace etc
Pres Obama?

Inspired_2write's avatar

remember this was written in 1503 – 1566 yr.

janbb's avatar

@Inspired_2write How would they have used the word President in the 1500s?

Inspired_2write's avatar

Actually leader was used.

ragingloli's avatar

Please provide the actual text of that alleged “prophecy”.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Will have to search online , and get back to you.

Inspired_2write's avatar

on the Nostradamus.org site
Lots of quatrains to search through for the particular one that describes my question about a small country waging war on the world.
This will take time to find ?
When I locate it I will ask my question again.
Sorry that I did not have this ready.

El_Cadejo's avatar

Throw enough darts at a board something is bound to hit….

augustlan's avatar

There is no reason to believe that Nostradamus (or any other ‘psychic’) was referring to any actual future events. We can try to make events in our time fit his ‘predictions’, but that won’t make them any more true.

zenvelo's avatar

See, you got the wrong little country. It was Israel, no wait, it was Kosovo, no it was Vietnam. Damn, which country was it again?

People have been trying to match Nostradamus’ ramblings for the last four hundred plus years. But nobody has ever explained why he would have any accuracy, even if he was intelligible.

SavoirFaire's avatar

All “prophecy” basically works on the same set of principles: the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, the Forer effect, and confirmation bias.

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Inspired_2write's avatar

Still it is incredible that this man from the 16th century had forthsight enough to leave his writings for future use.
How many in this time and age can do that?
His writings have initiated the world to discuss possibilities of future outcomes .
Even if that was all that he wanted to accomplish, then he has succeeded, in that much.
He had created an awareness of the world events and its possible impact on the everyday citizen.

glacial's avatar

@Inspired_2write But all that means is that other people happened to preserve his writings, when others’ writings were not preserved. How is that an accomplishment of any kind for Nostradamus? And if his writings were utter nonsense, why is it impressive that anyone preserved them? Rather, I should think that the fact that anyone still recognizes his name is embarrassing.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Obviously someone from the past thought that is was important to the future enough to preserve them.
By the way, the Vatican Library has millions of ancient books that is not disclosed to the public until recently.
Everyone can learn from each other, even a drunkard etc
One can learn how not to be.
One can learn how this drunkard became to his present state and therefore with this information Psycology developed further in understanding human fobiles better enough to help people.

ragingloli's avatar

Have you found the text by now, or have you given up?

Inspired_2write's avatar

Still searching.
May have to actually get the book from the library?
Also searching for that Documentary that airs periodically on Nostradamus almost every year on History Channel TV.
Iam curious on this topic now that North Korea has entered the arena.
It sparked the memory of that show.
I will get back to this question with more reliable info and sources as soon as can.

SavoirFaire's avatar

@Inspired_2write People write things down all the time. It doesn’t require the slightest bit of foresight to do so.

Rarebear's avatar

@ragingloli is being nice. Nostradamus, like any other psychic was a quack. Any so-called prophesy that comes true is called confirmation bias. What he wrote was so vague that modern people can interpret whatever they want into it.
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4066

Dutchess_III's avatar

A “dark skinned president?” Why do Americans always assume all prophesies are centered on America? Most “presidents” around this world are dark skinned!

Dutchess_III's avatar

As to the “small country that wants to wage war on the world – I’m pretty sure he’s referring to Kansas. We’re all pissed off at people who aren’t rednecks.

Or maybe it was Japan. Or maybe England. Akrotiri? Angola? Bulgaria?
Denmark, Estonia, Fiji, Gabon, Latvia, Macau…Oh hell. Just go see the list for your self. Almost ALL countries are small and almost all have a dark skinned leader and even dark skinned people. Caucasians are in the minority in this world.

Rarebear's avatar

And @Dutchess_III hits a home run!

SavoirFaire's avatar

“Why do Americans always assume all prophesies are centered on America?”

While this is a good point on its own, it is especially important in light of the fact that Nostradamus explicitly claimed his prophecies were only about Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor (i.e., Turkey).

Inspired_2write's avatar

FIERY DESTRUCTION OF THE GREAT CITY BABYLON THE WHORE?—IS IT AMERICA?
Nostradamus wrote about a fiery destruction of the “Great City!” He seems to foretell how the AC wages nuclear war against the “great new city”! This scenario is very similar to what the Bible calls the “great city Babylon the whore” in Revelation 17 & 18, which will be “destroyed by fire in one hour, on one day”!

He names the first nuclear target, a “great new city” at 45 degrees latitude. Experts agree that that could only mean� New York.

A direct quote from this site: Food for thought?

http://powerpointparadise.com/endworld/othrpred/nostradm.htm

glacial's avatar

Seriously? No, it’s just more of the same. Surely you see that. Apply the same logic that several people above have shown.

Anyway, New York wasn’t destroyed. So, it’s a pretty poor attempt at matching the “prophecy”, don’t you agree?

Inspired_2write's avatar

what IF you are wrong?

Inspired_2write's avatar

Every angle should be considered.
Every perspective looked at.
True understanding would result.

Inspired_2write's avatar

What If?
Will always present itself.
What If I am wrong?
What If he was correct in his Prophecies?
Makes us all wonder of the possibilities.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Doesn’t make me wonder.

glacial's avatar

“Makes us all wonder of the possibilities.”

Umm… sorry, it doesn’t. The real world is so much more interesting, I can’t be bothered.

SavoirFaire's avatar

“what IF you are wrong?

This is a completely inane response. It can be said for literally anything, giving it no logical force. It is a purely rhetorical flourish that one uses to hide the fact that their argument is essentially an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Reasonable people proportion their beliefs to the evidence. They do not go around asserting things that have the barest likelihood of being true.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Just another way of looking at a problem.
Just my opinion, as I am intitled too.

Rarebear's avatar

@Inspired_2write You’re also entitled to the opinion that the moon is made of green cheese. It doesn’t mean it’s right.

SavoirFaire's avatar

@Inspired_2write You are free to have an opinion, and we are free to criticize your (obviously false and poorly researched) opinion—especially when it is defended with nothing more than empty platitudes. Publicly stating an opinion puts it up for questioning and counterarguments. If you don’t like it, you are free to keep your opinions to yourself.

Inspired_2write's avatar

And you are free to not answer my questions.
It is rude to put down my thoughts on anything whether you agree or not .
That is not good debating.
I move on.

Dutchess_III's avatar

…There is no debate here, though. We answered your question. The answer is “No, because the predictions are silly.”

SavoirFaire's avatar

@Inspired_2write I am not putting down your thoughts, I am disagreeing with them. Disagreement is not disrespect, and neither is pointing out that a response is a bad response. Ultimately, however, I agree with @Dutchess_III: you asked, we answered. Furthermore, after we answered, you complained about us answering. But there was no debate at all. A debate would have required you to present an actual argument at some point.

Rarebear's avatar

Hi. Welcome to the Internet. In the Internet people are going to agree and disagree both respectfully and disrespectfully. Get used to it.

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