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Can you be mixed if you are still within the same "race"?

Asked by chelle21689 (7907points) May 5th, 2013

I asked a question about mixed race and so it made me come up with another question.

So here’s an example. Chinese look very different from Filipinos.
Here is a photo:
Chinese
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9pecYpPl-M9IJhDzthYxDdY8KXsZ-jNRrrQu72j3d6Mv2dbKkBQ

http://www.studiosystemnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Zhang-Ziyi-Portrait.jpg

Filipino
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSW-8b3yYFw1RGLubcc2Zv6R_S0vwlEproy8y3WkgtRctYAAsgS

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAfSOCTEZPudx_sytO1Nu3lPqOqrikGD5e8UudJVwS6_pGjMrzxQ
So if a Chinese and Filipino have a baby is it mixed? Not bi-racial or anything but you get what I mean since features you can tell apart.

Another question… Native American, Alaskan Inuit, Pacific Islanders such as Samoan/Hawaiian/Polynesians look different from Asians but are still of “mongoloid” race. So is it mixed if they are with an East or Southeast Asian and have a baby?

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bookish1's avatar

Western European scientists in the 19th century decided what counts as a “race.”
Races don’t exist until a census or other bureaucratic device asks for them.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Who, besides yourself, has the authority to decide this for you? You can be whatever you want be. Just walk the walk and talk the talk and let anybody who doesn’t buy it go straight to hell. You get about 75 years here. If you don’t do it your way, you’ll end up society’s little bitch. What a waste of a life that would be.

This may be all there is. No matter what you choose to believe, there is no real proof there is anything else. Live it like it’s all you’re going to get and live it like it could end tomorrow.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

It’s a great question and well worthy of discussion. Let’s start with this…What does “race” mean to you? How would you define it?

janbb's avatar

Race is a sociological construct not a biological one so the question is moot – or at least, very subjective.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@chelle21689 Please don’t focus on race so much. There’s so many other things that matter more. The greatest love of my life was denied to me because of religion. Life is a lot more open than that.

zenvelo's avatar

“Mongoloid” was not only a racial construct, it was also racist, which is why it hasn’t been used for over 40 years. It was a handy way for white people to put people into a category, but it was not scientifically supported, because of the blurring of racial characteristics.

Your statement that native Americans are “mongoloid” shows the problem of trying to fit groups into a bucket. And Pacific Islanders and Maoris don’t fit into those racial groups.

So “mixed” is a self identified characteristic, not an assignment by someone else.

chelle21689's avatar

This was asked out of curiosity. Lol jeez some of you are lecturing me but not answering the question. And I explained why I asked a race question. The question yesterday just made me think more.

bookish1's avatar

@chelle21689 : Maybe no one answered your main question because it did not make sense to us.

‘Race’ does not exist as an objective, quantifiable quality, so asking whether a person under X conditions might have the objective status of ‘mixed race’ does not make sense.

It’s all about context. The answer depends on who is asking, why, and who is recording it. On a U.S. Census form, for instance, someone of mixed Chinese and Filipino ethnic descent might have to list their ‘race’ as ‘Asian or Pacific Islander.’ Which is completely stupid, but the U.S. government has power, and it is asking you to create an objective ‘truth’ where none existed before, so that it can have better control over you.

In the scientific and bureaucratic creation of races in the 19th century, people decided that Vietnamese and Thais and Nepalese and Filipinos were all the same “Asian” race, which I think is pretty stupid. But it’s still a widespread notion.

This shit is all made up.

chelle21689's avatar

thanks for further explaining

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