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Am I the only one who is pissed off with how the news are reporting the UK beheading incident?

Asked by poisonedantidote (21680points) May 23rd, 2013

I am sure that by now, most of you will have heard about the beheading incident in the UK recently.

If you have heard and seen the news on it, stick around. If not, then watch sky news at the top of the hour or take a look at this link and come back to join in.

I am just wondering, if anyone is as pissed off with how the news are reporting the story and the kind of language that they are using. Personally, it is bringing my piss to a boil with rage.

According to the news…

There are some “terror suspects” in the UK, who have “brutally beheaded” a “drummer of the second fusiliers” by the name of Lee Rigby, while shouting “Allah”.

The victims family, said that Lee was _“a loving son, husband, father, brother and uncle, and a friend to many.”

Lee is said to be a “distinguished member of the second fusiliers” who had “served” in several countries.

Defense secretary Philip Hammond said “everyone had been saddened and shocked by drummey Rigby’s death”

The prime minister said that “One of the best ways to defeat terrorism is to go about our normal lives” and that “we will not be shaken by terror” (or some similar noise, I forget exactly)

So… Lets get started.

First, I would like to know, how the news differentiate between a “brutal beheading”, a regular beheading, and a kind gentle beheading.

Also… This “drummer” they keep talking about, just seems to me a lot like someone who voluntarily takes part in war, in exchange for money, or in other words, a mercenary, so, not so much a drummer really.

Also, these “terror suspects” seem a lot to me like stupid and crazy violent maniacs, who are at best guilty of 1 murder with a sharp object. (Given the UK’s knife crime statistics, I think there must be A LOT of terrorists in the UK.)

Also, in regards to that list of things that Lee Rigby was, such as a loving husband, father, brother and friend to many, does it not seem like it is missing the words “mercenary” and “enemy to many.”

Also, is it just me, or does “served” sound a lot like “killed/helped to kill” and “distinguished” sounds a bit like “killed lots and lots and lots”.

I also have to wonder, just how un-shaken by terror the prime minister would be, if he was being chased down the street by two maniacs with butcher knives.

Don’t get me wrong, I think it was wrong that this soldier/mercenary was killed, but also his being a soldier is really just as bad, if you are being objective, then being a soldier is maybe even worse than beheading just 1 guy, when you consider what soldiers do.

Even if he was just drumming, he would still be boosting the morale of all the other killers, but, he was not just a drummer was he, he was also a distinguished machine gun operator.

I am not really trying to say he deserved it or asked for it, I just think the language the news are using is cheap and manipulative bullshit.

What do you all think?

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16 Answers

marinelife's avatar

He was serving his country. He did not deserve to be attacked and killed. From all accounts, it was a really brutal attack.

dabbler's avatar

Totally on about the media coverage of this.
Gratuitously dramatic in all cases I’ve seen.

But, frankly the media seem to be willing write anything about anything to get attention.
Drama works.

poisonedantidote's avatar

@dabbler The trouble I am having with the language, is they almost seem to be trying to absolve the soldier of any past wrong, while creating a nice little us vs them thing going on.

poisonedantidote's avatar

I also wonder how much The Sun news are making by selling their footage online to people who want to see the blurry face cops shoot the attacker.

dabbler's avatar

That “us vs them” thing is the worst of it, in my opinion. Total editorializing.

Ron_C's avatar

I am very much against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and drone attack all around the Muslim world. I also hate the idea that deranged murders can run around free to behead citizens.

We give too much deference to Muslim sentiments and allow immigrants into our countries that have no reason for amnesty. Why are the U.S. and Great Britain allowing these primitives into our society without insisting that they behave like civilized people? It isn’t just attacks on members of the military. These savages engage in honor killings, forced marriages, and other acts that degrade women.

I frankly don’t care about the religion a person follows but I certainly object when they demand respect from me!

woodcutter's avatar

Had Y’all not banned firearms for the average bloke there, it would not have been a decapitation. just a gunshot death. A big yawn. Dead is dead but having the head chopped off makes a guy more dead?

josie's avatar

Just one more “Head in the Sand” evasion about the true threat of Islamism.
Keep pretending.
Or wake up.
Your call.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

@Ron_C I agree. I like how General Charles James Napier, Commander in Chief of India dealt with the Hindu custom of Sati under his command in 1849. This was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband.

“Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs”

I think that we should take the same attitude toward those who come to our country with customs which are criminal in our society. No problem. When I’ve lived in foreign countries, I assimilate or leave. I expect the same of others.

@woodcutter Doubtful. In all the non-school shootings going back to that of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in 2011, the theater in Colorado, etc., statistically the perps should have been outgunned by the people in the crowd. Instead, except for the one unarmed man with Giffords who got it in the head, they went down like lambs. People just duck and pee their panties because they may have weapon, but no training.

woodcutter's avatar

@Espiritus_Corvus I was referring to the fact that the perps chose to use knives instead of guns because thats the weapon to fear in Briton now. Knives—wouldn’t have been so much blood no?.You are referring to the US I think.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Yes, I misunderstood. I agree with you.

ucme's avatar

You sound like some extremist loon, if the news coverage pisses you off as much as you claim, then why watch it to the extent that you clearly do?
Actually, why even be bothered about it in the first place? News corporations have always dramatised emerging stories using exaggerated terminology, that’s just a gimme.
As for the rant about soldiers being mercenaries, makes you look like a loner who likes the sound of his own voice, usually whining about something or other.

rooeytoo's avatar

You’re probably not the ONLY one but I am sure you are in the minority. And I am very thankful that you are.

poisonedantidote's avatar

@josie I can assure you I don’t have my head in the sand about the threat of Islam. It is a serious threat, but these two guys were not sent by Osama or anything, they are just some maniacs who for the most part seem to be acting alone. I am only really disputing the term “terrorist”, as this to me looks more like a revenge killing of some kind, or just a maniacal attack, rather than an organized terror plan.

There is just as much danger in allowing anything to be called terrorism, as there is from the threat of Islam. If we allow our media and government to call anything they like terrorism, it will allow them to erode our rights more and more, until anyone they say is a terrorist for any reason. I don’t like witch hunts.

@ucme I am an extremist loon. (maybe even swivel eyed) However I am not in love with the sound of m own voice, even if I can’t say the same about the sight of my own writing.

As for soldiers being mercenaries, I have to stand by that claim. If your country drafts you and you can’t opt out, you are a soldier. If you choose to join an army and get paid for it, then you are a mercenary.

The news are not exactly dramatizing the story as much as they are manipulating the “spirit” of the story.

As for why I watch the news, It is to keep an eye on what they are saying, because a lot of other people also watch the news. If others did not watch it, I would not have to watch it.

I have personally been on the news twice in my life, both times it was sky news, the same people who reported this. So I have first hand experience of how they report things.

I was not in any major news stories, the first time I was simply giving my opinion of the internet about 15 years ago when I was a kid, the other time I was once of their soundbite people who they stopped in the street to ask questions. Both times, they edited my words in such a way, that it almost totally changed what I had said.

I am just pissed, that these people keep saying things that are so edited, that they are practically fiction by the time they are finished.

@general….

Soldiers/mercenaries are not flawless angels who can have nothing bad said about them. A lot of them are actually assholes who make the world a worse place.

ucme's avatar

The only thing I agree on is soldiers are not angels, of course they’re not, some of them are fucking yobs beating up on “civvies” when they’re tanked up on booze…undeniable dickheads.
The rest were going to have to agree to disagree, although Kay Burley is a fucking idiot :)

mattbrowne's avatar

I’m not pissed off. It clearly shows that unlimited free speech in the UK can cause serious harm. This murderer was brainwashed and encouraged by a hate preacher in the UK. And all the hate preachers keep preaching hatred.

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