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What type of hand sanitzer is alcohol free and made of totally "natural" ingredients?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47127points) June 6th, 2013

Dumb discussion on fb. Lady was whining because “strangers” want to touch her baby and they have STRANGER GERMS! The discussion goes on, and she says carries hand sanitizer around with her. She gets it at a health food store, swears it has no alcohol and no chemicals and only kills the bad germs, not the good. Is all natural. I asked her A) How would it know the difference between a good germ and a bad germ, and B) What is wrong with alcohol and C) what is the name of your sanitzer?

She has not responded. I wondered if there is even such a thing, or is it a marketing ploy directed at the paranoid germaphobes?

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marinelife's avatar

Here{keyword} is just one of many.

Dutchess_III's avatar

What are the ingredients in that?

Mariah's avatar

I have a non-alcohol hand sanitizer because I’m allergic to alcohol. I’ll check the ingredients later when I’m near it and see if it’s “all natural” or anything like that.

Edit: Indeed, on the front it says “all natural hand sanitizer, kills 99.99% of germs naturally”

Ingredients are:
Active: Thymus Vulgaris Oil
Inactive: Aloe Barbadensis leaf juice, citric acid, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) oil, copper PCA, hydrolyzed oats, litsea cubeba oil, origanium vulgare (oregano) oil, sodium citrate, sodium coco sulfate, sodium decylglucosides, hydroxypropyl sulfonate, water

I’m no naturalist but alcohol will make my hands itchy, so.

Dutchess_III's avatar

From Wiki “Common non-alcohol, rinse-free hand sanitizers use either small concentrations of the nitrogenous cationic surface-acting agent benzalkonium chloride, the chlorinated aromatic compound triclosan, or povidone-iodine. Some products claim to kill microorganisms naturally, although these claims are not substantiated in any FDA monograph.

jca's avatar

Makes no sense that the mother would rather someone rub that crap all over their hands and then touch the baby, rather than just touch the baby with nothing on their hands.

I wasn’t like that when my daughter was little. No “wash your hands before touching the baby.” How is the child going to become immune to germs if she’s not exposed to germs?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Exactly. She’s one of those paranoid types.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Ha ha! Someone just asked her where she gets her “plant oil based” sanitizer. Thanks to @Mariah I said it was probably Thymus Vulgaris Oil. Then I posted the description from Wiki: “Thymol (also known as 2-isopropyl-5-methylphenol, IPMP) is a natural monoterpene phenol derivative of cymene, C10H14O, isomeric with carvacrol, found in oil of thyme, and extracted from Thymus vulgaris (common thyme) and various other kinds of plants as a white crystalline substance
For someone who doesn’t want “chemicals” in their sanitizer, that’ll freak her out! :)

jca's avatar

Haha tell her to go to her herb garden and rub some thyme on the hands of the baby touchers!

Dutchess_III's avatar

:) Yeah! Another gal said, “So…..do you hand them the sanitizer and tell them to use it before they touch the baby?”
I said, “Or…she could just wipe the baby down with hand sanitzer.” Why not?

gailcalled's avatar

Soap and hot water.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Agreed. And NOT anti-bacterial soap.

Mariah's avatar

Everything, including plant extracts and water, is composed of “chemicals.” Freaking hysterical people and their freaking buzzwords…

Dutchess_III's avatar

I know, @Mariah! Milk is made of chemicals!

Dutchess_III's avatar

That friend tends to quite talking to me at times! :)

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOLL!!! One of her other friends (probably paranoid too) just posted under my post describing the oil. She said, “WHAT?????”

I said, “I was just telling you what compounds (chemicals, whatever) make up the oil. Here is my source (Wiki)”

She’ll probably say “Everyone knows Wikipedia is a tool of the devil.” (Did I mention uber-religious too?)

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOL! She said, “We should not be killing the good bacteria that God gave us (just the bad bacteria that God gave us!)”

Judi's avatar

I LOVE Doterra On Guard. It is an essential oil blend that is completely natural and smells great. No alcohol or chemical’s.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@judi…is the active ingredient Thymus Vulgaris Oil by chance?

bkcunningham's avatar

That reminds me of the time my husband had his first vegetarian meal with tofu. Prior to the stuffed shells, we were served a beautiful salad and offered bacon bits. I could see it coming and gave my husband a look that said, “You were warned and you’d better be on your best behavior.”

He ignored me.

With a look like a sheep killing dog, my husband proceeded to question my new friend about her bacon bits and how he thought she said she only ate natural foods. She said her vegan daughter had schooled her on what to eat and she had been eating only this natural way for many years, “Thank you very much.”

She went into the kitchen and brought out the package with a look as cocky as his attitude and started reading the “natural” ingredients which included the “artificial” bacon flavor. I’m fuming and ready to crawl under the table. She laughed out loud and said she’d been schooled. We have been inseparable ever since. That was nearly 4 years ago.

Rarebear's avatar

Jesus. It’s “Stranger Germs” that will improve the child’s immune function.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Yes, @Rarebear. And according to my friend, we don’t want to “kill the good germs that God gave us.” I’ll let ya’ll take it from there.

Nullo's avatar

@Dutchess_III The correct response is that all germs are good, but sometimes they’re in the wrong place, where they’re bad for you. :D

Rarebear's avatar

Really ? Y want me to take it from good god germs? That is like s softball lob pitch.
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bkcunningham's avatar

@Dutchess_III, who are these people you correspond with on Facebook? According to some of the things I see posted here, you and a few other on Fluther have the strangest back and forth with people on FB I’ve ever heard of in my life.

Dutchess_III's avatar

This particular person was my best friend in HS so of course you’ve never heard of her. We’ve stayed in contact through the years, but slowly have gone our separate ways, separate ideas. But…it’s fb. I’ve reconnected with a LOT of old friends from HS thanks to fb.
@Nullo OK, we need to build an even smarter hand sanitizer that can not only distinguish between good God germs and bad God germs, but between bad God germs in good God places and good God germs in bad God places.
We also need to invent a hand sanitizer than can catch lost baby birds and keep them alive until they can fly.

Nullo's avatar

@Dutchess_III And it needs to fix the economy and improve foreign policy.
I, for one, figure that God made us sturdy enough to survive living in a world full of His critters.

Judi's avatar

@Dutchess_lll, I don’t think so. It has cinnamon, orange, clove, eucalyptus and rosemary.

Dutchess_III's avatar

The ingredients should be on the container. I think the ones you listed are inactive. It’s the active ingredient (what ever it is) that does the actual sanitizing. But I could be wrong. Does it develop slides??? (JK. Another thread.)
I’m having a hard time finding the ingredients listed for that product. What does it say on the container.

Judi's avatar

those WERE the ingredients on the label. They are pure oils.

Nullo's avatar

@Judi And what makes an oil pure or impure? Refined and unrefined I get.

Judi's avatar

@Nullo , they are tested in a GCMS to make sure they have nothing put the plant oil in them. These are the products.

Dutchess_III's avatar

What other kind of oil would there be in them?

Judi's avatar

@Dutchess_III , some have pesticides and other contaminants.

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