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Which will teach children better morals and ethics... contemporary cartoons/anime vs the children's picture bible?

Asked by RealEyesRealizeRealLies (30960points) June 10th, 2013

This recent Bronies question got me thinking… since the men who patronize it claim MLP to have good lessons not only for children, but for adults too.

I was brought up Christian Protestant and was forced to attend church services at least three times a week. I was also prohibited from the Boy Scouts, and instead became a Royal Ranger (our church version of BS). Our family basically lived at the local church, and found good community there. So I got all the upbringing anyone could want from the Christian perspective.

I have vivid memories of the Children’s Picture Bible. Smiling angels. Smiling Jonah coming out of the smiling whale. Smiling Jesus looking towards the smiling God surrounded by smiling clouds. Frowning Pharaoh’s, frowning Romans, and of course, the frowning Jews throwing rocks at frowning prostitutes. Clear lines were drawn as to who was good, who was bad, what was right, and what was wrong. The devil portrayed the idea of deception. So he was often smiling, but was not to be trusted.

I was thirteen when my parents divorced. All the church activities ceased, and I got my first Conan the Barbarian comic. I was probably more interested in the scantily clad babes than the actual stories. But the same basic caricatures were present with all the good, the bad, and even the deceptive bad guys, who I must admit, weren’t nearly as obvious as the devil was.

Now, at 50 years old, I’m enamoured with the Naruto Shippuden manga. The depth of characters are far greater than any bible figure. And though I hate to admit it, I believe the lessons meet, and often exceed the lessons learned in both the children’s, and the adult bible. Perseverance, patience, kindness, sacrifice, dedication, trust, faith, love, hope, forgiveness, evil, and not so obvious deceptions are all found within this manga. It even addresses how to resist and overcome inner demons. I’m sure others teach these lessons too.

As well, Naruto Shippuden also addresses belief in a higher power than one’s self. It addresses the strength of community, temptation, an afterlife, and even resurrection… just like the holy bible does. But unlike the bible stories, Naruto Shippuden details not only good and bad, but actually how people become good or bad. Extreme efforts are taken to illustrate nearly every “bad” persons history, often from childhood. So I’m actually more empathetic when the “bad guys” do bad things. It’s easier for me to associate with them far more than any bad bible dude, who is most often dismissed as going to burn in hell.

It’s not that simple, as the bible stories tell. The lines aren’t so black and white. There are reasons why people do things which go far beyond the typical lessons of greed and power. Naruto also addresses subjects that the bible NEVER touches on, such as depression and addiction. Once again, Naruto goes to great depths to illustrate how these conditions arise.

My grandmother once told me that any issue in life can be found solved in the stories of the bible. I believed her back then, thirty five years ago. But I’m not sure I believe it any longer. I wish she could have seen Naruto.

So what do you think? Is there a show, or a book, as childish as it may seem, which to you, meets or exceeds the morality issues found within the bible? Please don’t make a universal claim if you haven’t read the bible. I have, and still study many different versions of it to this day. I’m not bagging on the bible here. It is a fantastic book of lessons for life. So is the Bhagavad Gita. But the point here is, that I don’t believe it is the only source. Morality and ethics may be well served by other sources not so religious in origin.

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El_Cadejo's avatar

I grapple with trying to “rationalize” my love of cartoons to other people a lot. I try and explain how the cartoons I watch often deal with much more mature themes and teach far better life lessons than half the live action garbage people watch on tv but it seems I rarely get through to them. The expression they generally have is a “but you’re just watching kids shows…grow up” So I don’t hardly ever bother anymore.

I’ve always loved the amount of moral and ethical issues dealt with in Trigun. I think I’m going to have to rewatch that series again…

FWIW cartoons and comics have always provided me more of a moral background than any religion has and I think I turned out pretty swell :)

Bellatrix's avatar

I’m an atheist but I was brought up as a protestant and attended church, was confirmed etc. I can’t honestly say that experience added much to my moral fibre at all. In fact, even as a child I was dismayed by some of the ‘unchristian’ behaviour I witnessed and recognised. Certainly we did read the bible, but the bible hasn’t been a foundation stone for my understanding of moral behaviour.

I believe moral lessons can and should come from a whole range of places and people. I can’t say I watch The Simpson’s regularly, but the programme deals with many of the problems, challenges, temptations people have to deal with on a daily basis. Even if Homer doesn’t choose the right path, it offers an opportunity to evaluate what he does and what he could have done better.

So I totally agree with your premise that the bible is not and should not be the only source of lessons, ideas and information about morality and ethics.

JLeslie's avatar

WTF? …and of course, the frowning Jews throwing rocks at frowning prostitutes. That is in a children’s book?

Are my only two choices the bible picture book you describe or anime? I learned my morals and ethics initially from my parents, by their example and their expectations. Throw in a nice story on The Brady Bunch or Andy Griffith. Eventually, my own brain sorted out why it is right, good, and pays off to act in a moral way. I witnessed myself the pay it forward effect, and experienced why it feels good to do what is right. The best way to raise moral kids is for them to be surrounded by moral people. Cartoons and story books also can be great, but I don’t want any throwing of stones or prostitutes in there.

YARNLADY's avatar

Every exposure that children have teaches them morals. To me, the most influential is their parents/caregivers. Cartoons and story books merely supplement direct example.

ragingloli's avatar

Anime hands down.
The bible advocates misogyny, homophobia, slavery and genocide, plus a completely disconnected from reality black and white moral system.
Anime’s (or any even slightly sophisticated contemporary literature’s) moral conclusions are a lot more layered and complex shade of grey.

I will throw in Star Trek as well. Informed a lot of my morality.

ninjacolin's avatar

The mass of modern media including but certainly not limited to cartoons, comedians, youtube channels, etc, is the new Bible. The Bible was informed only by as many sources of wisdom as existed until the time of its writing. There have been so many more sources of wisdom since then that there isn’t any need to rely on its ideas alone.

You can pick any 70 some odd volumes of books/tv shows/cartoons/animes/documentaries/websites/magazines/whatever and create your own bible several times over. Each filled with useful stories and anecdotes to help a child develop into a fully functioning moral creature.

Anyway, some I would pick as books for my child’s bible might include buffy the vamipire slayer, star trek tng, karate kid, dragon ball z..

antimatter's avatar

Anime is not a good teacher, I would go for the religious stuff.

ninjacolin's avatar

Trigun – crazy good moral stuff.

talljasperman's avatar

I still love Veggie Tales and my Value Tale books.

AsaraFayre's avatar

I believe anime and manga are much better tools for educating people on morals, ethics, values, philosophy, etc. I would definitely recommend you watch or read it first before giving it to your children simply because of the social and cultural differences in Japan. They’re less protective of their children, and as such, their ratings may be more liberal.

I agree with your point on what they teach. They show what the world is like, what people are like, what makes them function. It shows the various position in life and the how and why. This increases tolerance and understanding. Because of this, lessons are a lot less fear based.

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