Would Jesus be angry if you used a time machine to prevent his crucifixion?
Seeing it would alter the bible and change its message.
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Yes. It would be going against God’s plan for saving humanity from their imperfections. If Jesus hadn’t died on the cross (this is a theoretical obviously) then there would be no salvation through belief. We wouldn’t be able to go to heaven if Jesus hasn’t died for us.
I’m pretty sure he would forgive you.
I am pretty sure that if he didn’t want you to stop the crucifixion that you wouldn’t stop it. He is after all God incarnate.
If God is omnipotent, you could not possibly thwart his will. If he is not, then it doesn’t even matter what Jesus would think about your saving him from crucifiction, because the whole Messiah message is a sham in that case.
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That. If God is all badass, you could travel back in time all you wanted, you couldn’t stop His plans.
Although I bet all those Romans would be all like Great Scott! if someone showed up back then in a big, snazzy train. :D
I think the Romans nailed it & history should be left as it is/was…slightly disappointed Asterix didn’t show up & rescue the nazarine but then, the Gauls don’t give a shit bout no messiah.
Also, just to be a boring party pooping bitch, Asterix and friends were alive 500BC, so they would have been dead by the time Jesus showed up, and therefore could have done nothing. sorry, I fucking love those comics. :D
But yeah, either way, they wouldn’t have given a damn. Obelix might have helped, if there was food around, but otherwise…
Why so many hypothetical questions about religion?
Asterix is alive & well & living in a little village just outside of Birmingham, so there :P
I would probably end up inadvertantly giving him the anti gravity gear, medical nanites, and food replicator that he would use to deceive people into thinking he is supernatural, when in fact he is nothing more than a con man.
I agree @tups!
You can’t go back in time, because God won’t allow it now, probably for that very reason, because God knows His creation so well, just like we still have no clue how we got here because God gives us just enough knowledge to let us suffer [that’s part of the plan to weed out the good from the bad and give the good a place in His kingdom of heaven] but He does not give us enough knowledge to find out all of the answers because He is all knowing, not us, even though we wish we were < but that’s because we were made in His image.
Kapeesh? :P
I can’t speak for Jesus, but the entire christian religion industry would be out of jobs…
If it would get rid of those religious TV networks that interfere with my flicking I’d say go for it.
Jesus wouldn’t be angry at you anymore than he was angry at Judas, that’s not what He’s about. He could have called a legion of angels or his Father if He’d really wanted to.
@KNOWITALL – Jesus was a human, you know. He was born and raised as normal kid of the time, and only grew into his religious leader role as he matured.
So is it your thinking that, until he reached his priestly role, that he never got angry? That he and his playmates never got into child-level fights?
Being a human, wouldn’t Jesus be subject to the same emotions as any of us?
@elbanditoroso Of course he would have had the same emotions as other humans, but his whole mien was different. This wasn’t your typical child in other words.
Of Jesus in His early years the Bible says, “The child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon Him.” “And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.” Luke 2:40,52.
More on Jesus’ childhood here—-
http://www.preparingforeternity.com/soj/soj05.htm
My grandson is strong in spirit, and is pretty wise for a 6 year old.
That doesn’t prevent him from having tantrums.
Jesus didn’t get crucified when he was 6. :/
No, because what he said would still be something people talk about for the coming centuries. Christianity would be somewhat different, but still valuable.
Would Martin Luther King be angry if you used a time machine to prevent his assassination?
@mattbrowne I don’t think that the two are comparable. King’s death itself was not necessary to inspire and enact change. Had he lived, there might have been even greater and/or faster progress. We can’t know.
@glacial – We can’t know for sure, yes. But his death did have a huge impact. He knew about the risk. He knew he had powerful enemies. As did Jesus.
I bet Jesus would have been thrilled if somebody had come by and prevented him from being nailed up to hang by his arms and die a humiliating and agonizing death. So would you or me.
@josie Humiliating? I see it as a courageous sacrifice for his followers and all of us. Much like a Marine who runs to pull a comrade out during war. He didn’t have to, the Bible says he could have called on 10,000 angels anytime and he didn’t, for you and me.
I never saw anybody crucified, but I suspect even the most hard core victims spent a lot of time crying, and begging for mercy, and likely pissing and shitting themselves, while they dangled by their wrists. Artists, for the sake of modesty, usually portrayed the victim as being covered discretely by a loin cloth. Seneca reported that the Romans hung them up naked.
The Romans ( no strangers to clever ways of inflicting pain) used crucifixion precisely because it was humiliating.
I bet Jesus hated it, and I bet if somebody had called it off, he would have thanked them.
@josie If Jesus was the omnipotent God, and wanted to, he could have called it off. He could have also invented a perfectly painless way to forgive our sins. The idea that that was impossible, that a scapegoat was needed to pardon human sin, shows that God is either fallible and impotent in important matters, or nonexistent.
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