What do you think about the NSA bugging European Union offices in the US and in Brussels?
“The United States has bugged European Union offices and gained access to EU internal computer networks, according to secret documents cited in a German magazine on Saturday, the latest in a series of exposures of alleged U.S. spy programs.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/29/us-usa-eu-spying-idUSBRE95S0AQ20130629
“Documents from September, 2010 classified as ‘top secret’ by the National Security Agency, which were leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, revealed how the agency planted bugs at the EU offices in Washington and in New York and gained access to their internal computer networks. This enabled the NSA not only to snoop into the conversations at the EU missions, but also to monitor the emails and internal documents on their computers, the news weekly, Der Spiegel, reported in its latest edition.”
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/1855085/report-nsa-bugs-eu-embassies-infiltrates-their-computer-networks-german-media
Are European elected representatives seen as potential terrorists? What is the justification?
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It should be considered an act of war.
I’m totally comfortable with it and I wouldn’t be surprised if they did the same to us. This isn’t really looking for terrorists. This is looking for the next Pearl Harbor.
So this is totally different from Google handing over all your email to the NSA. And Like I said earlier. Europe needs their own services if they don’t want data landing on servers in the USA owned by corporations here.
What exactly did people think the NSA were spending $10billion a year doing?
It’s one of their most basic reasons for existing. The other is to try and stop other people from doing it to the US. it’s not their fault they’re better at it than the other side now is it?
Really? Is this a surprise to anyone? The offices were likely bugged by China and Russia as well. At least the US has the decency to keep competitive economic info out of the hands of industry. China sends it to the appropriate agency with industry contacts so state run/private companies always know how much to underbid. China gets away with it because they do not have to worry about leaks.
A long time ago, <15 years, I heard that every overseas conversation was listened to by at least 4 parties: The host country, the US, China, and the intended recipient. I cost some nonnative English speaker a lot of investigation time.
Oh almost forgot. Hilda says Hello. She lost a lot of weight. Exactly 27.8 kg. Don’t forget her birthday. It is the same day as Paul’s. Should I have encrypted that?
@ragingloli I heard the embassies in Germany are listening to alien conversations as well, via Yabba ray. The folks on Pegasus 37 are not happy.
I don’t care, there all a bunch of “buggers” anyway, boring, tedious shit.
I think NSA will do anything to keep the attention on Snowden being a traitor, rather than admitting foul. I also heard a report that US threatened to end trade with any nation who provided Snowden asylum.
@Lightlyseared “What exactly did people think the NSA were spending $10billion a year doing?”
They’re expected to do what their charter mandates, and no more. Their charter does not mandate wiretapping any US citizen or foreign official without them being legitimately suspect of aiding terrorist activity.
This has been going on since before the cold war . You can bug an office remotely by using laser bounce off the window glass.
Here are instructions if you want to try the experiment yourself. It is not hard.
@LuckyGuy ”...bug an office remotely by using laser bounce off the window glass.”
Yes. That’s why I have the Barney “I love you. You love me” theme song playing softly at every window.
@RealEyesRealizeRealLies The only thing that will do is drive you crazy. It is possible to subtract any known signal from the mix.
You need to add heavy white or pink noise or frequency hop a few talk radio stations.
Aunt Bertha is coming tomorrow and she is 14.8 kg heavier. Don’t tell Uncle Harold.
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Why is this news? One must be naive not to have expected that.
“In NSA parlance, the United States is the sole first-class nation, with Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand rated as second-class partners, and less favored European countries such as France and Germany rated as third-class partners. Only the four second-class partners, all of whom participate in and facilitate the US-led spying on the entire world, are ostensibly exempted from NSA surveillance.”
@mattbrowne Remember 25+ years ago when they discovered the US embassy in Germany was bugged.- by German contractors hired to build part of it? Was anyone really shocked by that?
How about all the foreign Technical Centers being built in China by Chinese contractors workers and IT support personnel. Companies foolish enough to believe they can enter the “vast untapped market” of China are losing their Intellectual Property faster than they can make it.
That is greater danger to your country than the NSA analyst listening to Helmut canoodling with Helga.
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Well, it gives me a very uneasy feeling. Friends shouldn’t spy on friends and that applies to both ways of course.
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