Social Question

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Boring question #54: Isn’t it a tacit form of insecurity if you are a woman who can pass the ”pencil test” but wear a bra anyhow?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) July 16th, 2013

A woman choosing to wear a bra when she would easily pass the ”pencil test” has to be more than just the enjoyment of wearing bras, or is it? From what I heard about the discomfort it is wearing bras to wear one for no reason is like a person wearing one of those paper mask over their nose and mouth when there is no reason to do so. People wear hats with big brims, large shades, wear their hair to cover a lot of face, most do it to ”hide” themselves or unflattering features like ears that stick out. One can conclude they are tacitly trying to avoid attention to something. Would not that be called a tacit form of insecurity?

Sorry, could not think of a NSFW question about kinky or odd sex.

Observing members: 0 Composing members: 0

28 Answers

bob_'s avatar

Dude, how do you come up with these questions?

Coloma's avatar

Clearly you weren’t around in the 60’s and 70’s. haha
Nix this…there is plenty of braless history to discount your theory.

El_Cadejo's avatar

What is this pencil test you speak of?

Coloma's avatar

@uberbatman If a woman can hold a pencil under her breast it means she needs a bra, or should wear one.

El_Cadejo's avatar

Guess it’s true, ya learn something new every day…

Mariah's avatar

Providing support/lift is not the only legitimate reason for wearing a bra. Even though I have microboobs (wouldn’t hold a pencil), and they don’t really sag without a bra, it does hurt to jog or climb stairs without a bra. Bras also make it so you can’t see nipples. If you think wanting to obscure my nipples can only be explained by insecurity, you’re wrong. I’m not insecure about the fact that I have nipples. That doesn’t mean I think it’s appropriate to show them to everybody.

Pandora's avatar

If you don’t train them early, they will become the fat under your armpit.

Mama_Cakes's avatar

I can pass the pencil test and I sometimes rip my bra off when I sleep, so what? Sometimes, I don’t, though. I like my tits. And I like them to be secure. In fact, it feels weird sleeping without one.

No insecurity here. It’s a matter of comfort.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@Mama_Cakes That’s interesting that you sleep with a bra on. They do seem horribly uncomfortable. First thing my SO does when she gets home is take hers off :P

Mama_Cakes's avatar

@uberbatman I’ve always slept with one on. Ever since I started wearing bras. I’m a freak! lol Really, though, it feels more comfortable for me to have one on. A bra is always off when I sleep with my partner. She usually has her arm wrapped around them (jibbilies).

augustlan's avatar

Isn’t it a tacit form of obsession to ask so many questions about women’s bodies, and what they should or should not do with them, wear on them, or show to you?

Mama_Cakes's avatar

I see that he asked this question before. Someone is a little obsessed with women’s bodies (and at times making women feel like shit). Where do you get off?

Creepy.

Mama_Cakes's avatar

And for the record, my jibbilies aren’t small.

jca's avatar

@Mama_Cakes and @augustlan: Sometimes it makes me wonder if people who are obsessed with certain body types just can’t get any of ANY type, and so therefore, perhaps are a bit frustrated and angry? Know what I mean? ;)

livelaughlove21's avatar

There are two reasons a bra is uncomfortable. The most common reason is that you’re wearing the wrong size, as many women are. The second is that you have very large breasts, but that has nothing to do with the question. Unless you have perky perfect breasts, wearing a bra is the more aesthetically pleasing option. And if they work in a professional environment, having your nipples show through your top is painfully unprofessional.

I just barely pass the pencil test (by the way, passing the test is when the pencil does not fall) and I never leave the house without a bra. My clothes look better, I feel more secure, and I don’t often worry about them hanging to my knees in a few years.

You sure do worry about what women do with their bodies quite a bit…

LornaLove's avatar

For the same reason a man with a pencil dick wears underpants?

jca's avatar

@LornaLove: Or “underware” (spelling a la @Coloma LOL)! :)

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

No! Just because you have perky boobs doesn’t mean you want your nipples saluting everyone.

Is it just me, or are you seriously trying to piss everyone off? WTF is with all of your rude/weird-ass questions about women lately???

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Mariah I’m not insecure about the fact that I have nipples. That doesn’t mean I think it’s appropriate to show them to everybody. In actuality you are not showing them to anyone, they are as covered as if you were wearing leggings. Because the fabric clings to the legs and hips, on some as if it were artificial skin, outlining every curve is that synonymous to exposing your bum to everyone? In actual mechanics what would be the difference?

@Mama_Cakes In fact, it feels weird sleeping without one.
That is due more to habit don’t you think? I know people who can’t sleep naked because all their life they have been trained or made to sleep in pjs or something, and on the flip side, I have known people who have slept nude since their teens and it feels weird for them to sleep in anything; even underwear.

Someone is a little obsessed with women’s bodies (and at times making women feel like shit). Where do you get off?
If I were a woman I would think about those things of men. I am a man and since we all play into expectations regarding gender no matter how we lie to ourselves that all our choices are our choices and appeasing or appealing to the other sex or to society in general. If that is a suggestion that I should put my mind in the bedroom and the acts that happen between people more, come out and say so, even though why should I care what another smells while boinking whomever; I should only worry about what I would smell.

@augustlan*Isn’t it a tacit form of obsession to ask so many questions about women’s bodies, and what they should or should not do with them, wear on them, or show to you?*
The cyber voyeurism department on asking numerous questions about NSFW kinky, odd, strange sex, its smells, positions, locations etc was already taken. I was more curious what goes on in the mind of people instead of between their legs :-) Thanks for noticing, and you are welcome for helping to rack up your points…..

@jca @Mama_Cakes and @augustlan: Sometimes it makes me wonder if people who are obsessed with certain body types just can’t get any of ANY type, and so therefore, perhaps are a bit frustrated and angry?
(big swing and a miss) Maybe not frustrated about people who obsess over sex because they might are not be getting enough

@livelaughlove21 My clothes look better, I feel more secure, and I don’t often worry about them hanging to my knees in a few years.
What muscle you don’t use atrophy, so you might be assuring sag more than avoiding it.

@LornaLove For the same reason a man with a pencil dick wears underpants?
Humor me that reason would be? I have not a clue.

@WillWorkForChocolate Is it just me, or are you seriously trying to piss everyone off?
Maybe you and a few other, but that is how you want to let the question move you. It is just a question. I did not ask “Why are men so much better than women?, ”Should we make women ride mopeds because they suck at riding motorcycles?, etc. That would be rude. You, and anyone else, are free to skip the question and go find one asking when you boinked last, who did you boink, how many hours it took, what did you do right after, how many times you reached the big ‘O’, what sex toys you used, etc, etc. Mine are not the ONLY questions are they? If you wanted Chinese for the night, would you seat yourself in a Mexican restaurant? If you do not like the questions I ask, I implore you, skip them, I don’t care; find questions you like and think flatter whatever cause, subject or people. :-)

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central What muscle you don’t use atrophy, so you might be assuring sag more than avoiding it.

That’s what pec flies and push-ups are for. And I’m not sure how much of a workout those muscles are getting by letting A-cup boobies hang free. Also, breasts are mostly fat, not muscle.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@livelaughlove21 That’s what pec flies and push-ups are for. And I’m not sure how much of a workout those muscles are getting by letting A-cup boobies hang free. Also, breasts are mostly fat, not muscle.
That might help but bras certainly won’t help, help, but you and the billions of other women wasting money on those things will believe what you want anyhow…...

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Well it’s a good thing that what we women spend our money on is done of your damn business. :)

And, if you notice, that was only one reason I gave for wearing a bra, and I never claimed it did help. I simply said bras made me worry less about it.

What difference does it make to you if a woman wears a bra or not? Other than being on the receiving end of free nipple shots?

Mariah's avatar

The difference is that our social code says it’s okay to wear leggings but not that it’s okay to show nipples. Just because I want to follow social conventions doesn’t mean I’m insecure.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central No, it’s not “how the question moves me”, it’s just the question itself. You have been displaying incredibly chauvinistic opinions of women lately, and it’s gone beyond annoying.

And by the way, how ridiculous of you to insinuate that I should only be interested in sex questions. Right, because as a woman, I’m either too fat or skinny, I shouldn’t wear a bra, if I dress pretty, that must mean I’m trying to compete with my daughter, and if I don’t like your “deep” questions, I should go answer shallow ones about boinking. Yes, dude, you really have women pegged. Bravo.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@livelaughlove21 What difference does it make to you if a woman wears a bra or not? Other than being on the receiving end of free nipple shots? Oh wow, I wait all day for that (sarcasm is a dish best served dry). Don’t take this the wrong way, but you might anyhow, the Internet offers better than what you have, if I wanted to see nipple, I could find 100s at the click of a mouse. I don’t care if a woman wears a bra or not if she is not my woman, just don’t feed me a load of guff why you do. If a woman is going to invent a reason they can at least invent one that is plausible and not the usual talking points. You can spend your money any way you want, if you purchased wheel barrels of dog crap because you felt it would make your car shine more if you polished the vehicle with it, I could care less; it is your car and your money.

@WillWorkForChocolate You have been displaying incredibly chauvinistic opinions of women lately, and it’s gone beyond annoying. IF I were being condescending to women you would certainly know it in no ambiguous terms. What you may see as chauvinistic someone else doesn’t. As I said, I could have asked question like “Why are flat-chested women so manly?” “Should the DMV bar women from riding motorcycles because they suck at it?” “What other place than barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen is a woman good for?” If I asked that way it would be rude and insulting. Maybe that is the type of rudeness you can understand then you won’t have to imagine a question is rude just because it is not flattering women no matter what with flowery pompous accolades.

And by the way, how ridiculous of you to insinuate that I should only be interested in sex questions.
I was speaking in general, not specifically to you. However, now that you mention it, I would bet if there are any NSFW questions, you answered the question and not merely complained the question was obscene and the OP was some obsessed horndog or nymph.

Response moderated (Personal Attack)
Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

That means you will bypass all my future questions I take it, not that it makes any difference to me or what I will ask.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Oy. Trying to talk to you is completely useless.

Answer this question

Login

or

Join

to answer.
Your answer will be saved while you login or join.

Have a question? Ask Fluther!

What do you know more about?
or
Knowledge Networking @ Fluther