Social Question

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

When are school uniforms real uniforms and not just quasi uniform, color codes?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) August 14th, 2013

Gleaned from this question phrases and thought like: I got so much shit for wearing clothes that were POOR. First impressions and all, Uniforms have been chosen as one of many ways to protect the students. How much skin should be allowed to show? How tight should the clothes be? Where do you stop making a rule for every specific case and simply require uniforms? They had a dress code that required that the boys wear a shirt and tie, I couldn’t believe it! I’m all for uniforms, because I think it helps eliminate fights about clothing for the parents, makes it easy on the child to decide what to wear, helps level the playing field between poor children and those who can afford more etc that uniforms make it better overall than not to have them. How effective are uniforms really when they are not really uniforms? If the school say their uniform is khaki pants or skirt with a maroon top but don’t issue them but let the parents chose whatever style, or brand in those colors, how effective can that really be? If someone can afford to wear a Sean John, or some other designer label maroon shirt and someone else can only afford a knock off or no-name maroon shirt from a bargain clothier isn’t that kid still at a disadvantage? Those kids not wearing name brand will still be targets even if they are wearing a maroon top, they are not wearing the right maroon top. If the school doesn’t issue the uniforms where each one is the same as the next, like the G.I. uniform in the military; where each are the same style and cut, just different sizes, isn’t it more of a quasi uniform ad hoc by color code?

That is not even breaking into the how some will be able to accessorize with more expensive stuff that is allowable to further distance themselves from those who have not.

Observing members: 0 Composing members: 0

9 Answers

KNOWITALL's avatar

Most kids will not take the time to look at labels if it appears to conform. If you wear a Wal-Mart brand of tennis shoe and everyone else has Nike’s, it’s obvious, not so with uniforms, they just take you for ‘one of them’.

It’s bad enough to get free lunches, or have your mom work so she can’t be a PTA mom, not to have a dad, live in low-income housing and then wear crappy clothes because that’s all mom could afford. It’s a pretty big deal when it’s YOU and it hurts, and it hurts to see your mom cry because she feels she let you down.

Seek's avatar

All I can say is that I’m glad I don’t have to buy school uniforms this year. Don’t know where I’d come up with the money.

Thank the gods it’s only kindergarten.

zenvelo's avatar

“Uniform” means “A distinctive outfit intended to identify those who wear it as members of a specific group” so as long as the clothing is the same general color and texture it comprises a uniform.

That’s all it takes.

augustlan's avatar

Since uniform codes generally don’t allow any logos to appear on the outside of the clothes, who would ever know if your shirt was from Walmart or Sean John?

rojo's avatar

“I’m just a robot and I know my place…...”

johnpowell's avatar

“How much skin should be allowed to show? How tight should the clothes be?”

I don’t see the correlation.

LornaLove's avatar

I think school uniforms should be standard and everyone should wear the same blouse and skirt, trousers and so on. Well not the same one, as they would not all fit!

The problem I have with the local school is most of the girls look like trashy hookers. I am not sure why they have allowed this. Thank goodness I do not have a teenage girl attending this school.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@augustlan Since uniform codes generally don’t allow any logos to appear on the outside of the clothes, who would ever know if your shirt was from Walmart or Sean John?
Because the students themselves will declare it, they are not going to have on Sean John, or wear a J Lo slacks and not say they are. They will floss it the same way those who have iPhones, and Android smart phones make a point of letting people know they have more than the basic Metro dumb phone that doesn’t have all the bells and whistle. If any are fashion conscious they will know by the cut or fit what is what and what came from K-Mart.

@zenvelo “Uniform” means “A distinctive outfit intended to identify those who wear it as members of a specific group” so as long as the clothing is the same general color and texture it comprises a uniform.
How close is “close”? Does it mean they have to have the same type collar in spite of which clothier sells it or which garment manufacture stitched it together? What if one young lady is wearing baggy cotton/poly khaki slacks does that mean the young woman wearing fitted Capri slacks is in the wrong? What about the Gal wearing fitted poly blend or cotton denim hybrid, are they close enough or in violation. If one girls wants to wear a maroon top with raglan sleeves is it the same as regular sleeves the others are wearing. What about the young man that wants to wear his shirt 2 sizes too big, a go or no go? Near same style or color is not a genuine uniform.

u•ni•form
adj.
1. Always the same, as in character or degree; unvarying.
2. Conforming to one principle, standard, or rule; consistent.
3. Being the same as or consonant with another or others.
4. Unvaried in texture, color, or design.
n.
1. A distinctive outfit intended to identify those who wear it as members of a specific group.
2. One set of such an outfit.
tr.v. uniformed, uniforming, uniforms
1. To make (something) uniform.
2. To provide or dress with a uniform.

Uniforms in Japanese schools look like carbon copies of each other.

@LornaLove The problem I have with the local school is most of the girls look like trashy hookers.
You can get away with a comment like that, not I
To get a visual of what you believe is a “trashy hooker” look, a brief description of the basic attributes that would make you label some one as dressing that way?

LornaLove's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Try bee-hive hairdo’s (as in teased to some height). Tight bandage skirts that barely cover their behinds, Stocking in various patterns including fishnet. Thick make up which is orange, and eyeliner so thick it has to be seen to be believed. I do believe they stick to the colors required which are black and green that is about it. Could you come up with another stereotypical hooker look?

Answer this question

Login

or

Join

to answer.
Your answer will be saved while you login or join.

Have a question? Ask Fluther!

What do you know more about?
or
Knowledge Networking @ Fluther