Why don't many wine makers realize their wine is HORRIBLE SWILL?

Not all wine drinkers enjoy the same wines. I think every single type of wine I’ve tried has been disgusting, particularly red wines. The only stuff I can stomach is the cheap, sweet stuff that you’d probably call “swill.”

I also think beer has a horrible taste, but plenty of people like it. To each his own.

Yeah, I think that’s it….

What kind of wine are you referring to? I’m pretty good at choosing wines.

Perhaps the fortified wine makers, many among the 30% you mention, really don’t care what the wine tastes like. Neither do the drinkers of said wine.

Or were you speaking about regular wines?

I am grouping all wine together.

In contrast to @livelaughlove21, I only care for very dry wines, leaning toward reds. Anything sweet might as well be Welch’s grape juice.

This alcholic will drink 100% of wines and not notice any difference between them.

But the funny thing is I feel the same way about Windows 8 as you feel about wine.

If enough people will buy it, someone will make it.

Bud still dominates the beer market. Most food is processed crap. Why would you have high expectations for wine? If only 30% of it is that terrible, it’s doing remarkably well.

I suspect big catering and corporate contracts keep a lot of the crap stuff in business though. The bad stuff is the least common denominator. Most people will at least try it under the right circumstances, it keeps, and just maybe the people with bad taste won’t like the good stuff.

Let’s say you’re an experienced, informed, talented, wonderous winemaker.

So you grow a field full of grapes, let’s say they make it through the season but they don’t turn out exactly like you’d hoped. Something is off. But they are still damn expensive grapes and you already have all this wonderful wine making stuff. You also happen to be running a business.

So you crank out a batch of subpar wine, sell it as an off label, and do better next time. Right?

And that’s a wonderous winemaker, everyone has to learn somewhere and they probably want to sell what they’re learning on.

The same sort of classifications can be applied to almost any consumer product, from literature (consider what “romance novels” don’t make the New York Times’ best-sellers list, even though they outsell most decently written and edited books listed there) to television programming and movies, music, “news” programs, and, as noted above, food products.

The polite thing to do is simply ignore those things that are beneath one’s notice or taste, and politely smile at those who think “it’s the greatest”. And try to do that without condescending, either. I dare ya’.

Good wine generally is expensive and often hit or miss. Some labels have a really good year and then be just “ok” the next. I have had some budget bottles ~$10 be decent but generally it’s $15—$20 before the competition even starts. That’s a hefty price for 4 drinks. I hate white wine, it’s a waste of good growing land, yeast and casks that should be used to make red.

I’m with @Seek_Kolinahr on the dry’s being my ‘thing’, but my husband loves a sweet white moscato. But OP is right, a lot of it is swill that tastes like sour grapes and chemicals, ugh.

I recommend our Missouri wines, the semi-sweet red is delicious!

Many will say“It is just business.” as if that makes it OK. But the fact is we do have to pay for what we get and often we do not get what we pay for.