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What is the translation of "nostalgia" in Elvish?

Asked by illusionslies (586points) November 16th, 2013

Asking this makes me giggle, but I need to. If anyone knows…?

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Seek's avatar

The word doesn’t exist in Elvish.

The closest I can give you is to describe one’s longing for the past.

“____ mily— wanwie”

In place of the dash, you’ll conjugate based on the verb tense.

Past tense – milye (longed for)
Present tense – milya (long for)
Future tense – milyuva (will long for)

In the underscored area, you can place a pronoun.
Amin = I or Me
lye = we
he/she = ro/re
you = lle
they = ron

This way you’ll end up with something like

Amin milya wanwie. ( I long for the past , or roughly, “I am nostalgic”. )

illusionslies's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr Thanks! And how can I write it in elvish? like in LOTR?

morphail's avatar

Quenya or Sindarin?

Seek's avatar

It would take a year to teach you all the intricacies of the written Elvish languages – there are two, and each are written differently.

The writing style on the One Ring is an ancient style, and different than, say, the Feanorian Tengwar you see on the Door to Khazad-dum.

Instead of giving a full lesson on how to write Elvish, I’m going to cheat and give you an Elvish generator.

http://derhobbit-film.de/rune_generator.shtml

When you use it, you’ll have the option of choosing

what they call “Hobbit Runes (Old English runes from The Hobbit)” (inaccurate on both counts – the map wasn’t a hobbit-made map, and the runes are Futhark, not English)

Dwarvish runes

And Feanorian letters – THIS is the Elvish Tengwar you want.

You can put anything into there, and have it transliterated into Elvish, but it is not a translator. The language stays the same, just changes the alphabet.

For an example of what comes out, I used it to transliterate Amin milya wanwie.

morphail's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr
The writing on the ring is tengwar, is it not? It’s the same alphabet as on the door into Moria. But the writing on the ring is not Elvish, it’s Black Speech.

Seek's avatar

The writing on the Ring is the older version of Tengwar – so Tengwar proper, with the flourishes – not the Feanorian Tengwar, which is more Uncial looking.

And the language is Black Tongue, yes.

illusionslies's avatar

@morphail @Seek_Kolinahr so the writing on the ring is not elvish, what does nostalgia translate to to whatever language is on the ring

Seek's avatar

The writing is Elvish script. The language on the Ring is the language of Mordor, called the Black Tongue, and it is not as complete a language as Elvish. There is no word for “nostalgia” in Mordor.

The words on the ring are as follows:

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

Since there is no written alphabet for Black Speech, any instance of the Black Tongue being written in LotR is done in the old Tengwar script.

illusionslies's avatar

Hahahaha you are amazing, thank you

Seek's avatar

Lle creoso, mellonamin

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