Is it now open season on Alzheimers patients? What is with the "shoot first" mentality?

Only fired four bullets? What a pussy.

But on the stand your ground thing this probably has more merit then, say, Zimmerman.

It is a shame but that is America. Hopefully the NRA doesn’t come out saying all Alzheimer’s patients should be armed.

Oh, somewhat funny story here. My buddy Aaron is a huge stupid drunk. About ten years ago we were at a party and his ride was leaving but he decided to stay. Turns out that his parents old house (they had sold it about five years before this happened) was near the where the party was. So he ends up walking there and breaking in like he used to do in high school and turns on the tv and passes out on the couch in the living room. He wakes up to a very confused guy shaking him.

They feed him coffee and pancakes and drive him home. I suppose it could have been much worse.

The ancient structures that compose our reptile brain are extremely compelling. They’ve guided us since long before we were anything close to human. The reptile brain delivers forceful and unambiguous directives, along the lines of “respond to fear with violence”.

If you’re in the business of justifying violence then it’s easy to make an appeal to the collective reptilian brain of the public. Just sell the idea that we’re surrounded by threats, and that violence is an acceptable way to respond.

To override the urgings of the reptilian brain requires that our higher mental processes—the ones that make us human—be brought into play. First, there needs to be a clear-eyed assessment of the actual level of threat; one based on evidence, not emotion. Then, there has to be an openness to actions that pacify rather than destroy. The reptile brain is incapable of this.

I just read something that happened on a Paris Metro train some time ago: a disheveled man, drunk or disturbed, and bleeding from some altercation, got on the train. He was swearing loudly at young women, gesturing violently. People withdrew from him, naturally, and I suppose that in Georgia he could have been legally shot. But as he staggered down the aisle of the train, an old woman reached out and took his hand, gently pulling him down onto the seat next to her. She held him close and he began sobbing, and all was calm. I don’t know how things went from there, but it seems to me that this was a better outcome than the shoot ‘em up version. This is the kind of response that the reptile brain, primed for violence, could never come up with.

I’m willing to admit that violence sometimes is the best response, but not nearly so often as the reptile brain would have us think.

An unintentional trespasser, who also happens to be an Alzheimer’s patient, knocks on someone’s door at 4am, and you still feel the need to ask why shoot first? I don’t know if you ever seen an Alzheimer patient, but their behavior can easy and unpredictable change from simply wandering around to aggressiveness, anger and irritability.

According to the article, the shooter gave some verbal commands before shooting. That doesn’t sound like shoot first, ask questions later. Considering it is 4am, visibility is low which makes it quite difficult to spot a weapon

That particular county isn’t quite peachy either….

Crime [Walker County, Georgia (GA)]
Murders: 2
Rapes: 5
Robberies: 5
Assaults: 189
Burglaries: 326
Thefts: 1046
Auto thefts: 157

Also, on principle alone, why should someone under potential threat have to avoid threats by running away, especially when it is their property? It sooner makes sense to take down the threat before being taken out yourself.

Or lock the door and call the cops like reasonable people. And your stats actually invalidate your RAMBO argument.

The doors were already locked and they did call the police. Read the article – Hendrix’s fiancee didn’t answer, instead calling police.

The shortest wait time for police to respond is around 7 minutes. Good luck with that.

What is my rambo argument and how do the stats invalidate it?

Hendrix’s fiancee didn’t answer, instead calling police. But before deputies arrived, Sheriff Steve Wilson said, Hendrix went into the back yard with his handgun, where he saw Westbrook in silhouette.

You are correct. But waiting when there was no real threat. 30 seconds or seven minutes is irreverent.

I’m saying that isn’t a high crime area. And four bullets is what idiot that thinks he is in a movie does.

Trespassing on its own is a threat. That alone raises alarms. Trespassing at 4am, raises those alarms to really high levels and the reason for it is because you don’t know what to expect which means in 7 minutes that locked door could easily be broken to pieces and the homeowners life could come to an end.

I didn’t say it was a high crime area, I said it wasn’t an exactly peachy area. High crime is relevant to population which is around 63k in that county. 326 burglaries isn’t exactly small either even though total crime for the year is about 3–4%.

Oh america colonies.
Let me sing you a love song. Sort of. Not really.

We’re all living in America,
America is wunderbar.
We’re all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

Wenn getanzt wird, will ich führen,
auch wenn ihr euch alleine dreht,
lasst euch ein wenig kontrollieren,
Ich zeige euch wie’s richtig geht.
Wir bilden einen lieben Reigen,
die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen,
Musik kommt aus dem Weißen Haus,
Und vor Paris steht Mickey Maus.

We’re all living in America…

Ich kenne Schritte, die sehr nützen,
und werde euch vor Fehltritt schützen,
und wer nicht tanzen will am Schluss,
weiß noch nicht, dass er tanzen muss!
Wir bilden einen lieben Reigen,
ich werde Euch die Richtung zeigen,
nach Afrika kommt Santa Claus,
und vor Paris steht Mickey Maus.

We’re all living in America,
America is wunderbar.
We’re all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.
We’re all living in America,
Coca-Cola, Wonderbra,
We’re all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

This is not a love song,
this is not a love song.
I don’t sing my mother tongue,
No, this is not a love song.

We’re all living in America,
Amerika is wunderbar.
We’re all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.
We’re all living in America,
Coca-Cola, sometimes WAR,
We’re all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

Shot with a gun?

Here in Tampa, we just count on the cops to run down the mentally challenged

On the upside, they killed the blind man before he had a chance to wander aimlessly into someone else’s property, saving the homeowner the indignity of having to use their free murder card.

This is why people should not own guns.

Georgia is in the South. That should explain it all right there.

@Seek_Kolinahr And that is why I think, “It’s the South!”, is all the explanation one needs for even the most fucked up shit you ever saw in your life. Most such stuff I see tends to be in Texas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, South Carolina…. see the trend?

Dead men (and women) tell no tales.