@DWW25921 So apathy?
@Michael_Huntington Hrm. What does that mean?
@KNOWITALL I won’t argue about big pharma greed. But cartels are motivated by greed. Question though because I don’t know. Who are these non payers? Everyone I know pays through the nose even if they can’t afford it. If not they have creditors and they eventually get paid. Sooo that leaves illegals who don’t have to worry about credit history? The homeless… How many of those people are too scared of systems like that to even go.. and of those that go how many don’t get kicked out on their ear as soon as they are stable enough not to die?
How much money annually does this cost the health care system in a year, how much does the health care system net in a year?
Does any one have these figures, even if just broken down by a particular institution.
@zenvelo Yep, Banner health a legal non profit owns this healthcare in town, and they own a large chunk of ever expanding land as well. I get surveys after an outpatient procedure or an er visit… Asking if I would recommend them… I say no and tell them why. And it isn’t just because of the staff infections so many have gotten there, or the fact a maintenance guy stroked out and died while at work there. Or because I have to explain to many doctor’s what my condition is or they have to google it… They just have crappy service all around.
I get most of my major medical our of town. But how do they do it, ppo’s they tell people they will pay less if they go to this particular list of providers. The patient is just relieved to catch a break, and then they refuse travel expenses if a person can get be treated with in a area. The only people who need this are really sick. Which means they are really broke, the rest of the population is too busy to notice.
@SavoirFaire Wow, just wow. But I would say most of the docs I met are not that rich or callous and do care about the patient, though they are ignorant and too busy to get to attached.
@drhat77 true there are too many groups feeding off the pool, so many that when they are swarming you can’t tell where one ends and another begins.
@rojo Or the FDA or the colleges teaching the doctor’s and doing studies or the pharmaceuticals trying to research and push pills or the lawyers and malpractice insurance companies. Or 3m invacare or other companies that supply medical equipment… Are they in cahoots do they have to be? They just have to get along well enough to drink from the pool I think…
@Espiritus_Corvus I was born in Humana as a matter of fact, they are an insurance company too?