Do you think white males still feel superior to other races?

@KNOWITALL Can I ask what recent cases of this you are referring to?

Not just other races but also other sexes,other species, most inanimate objects and, well, pretty near everything else.

—We also feel like an endangered species. In the words of that great philosopher, Eric Idle:
“So what, the planet fails
Let’s save the great white males….”—

From the best I can understand from the OP, I don’t think aggression is necessarily a white guy issue, nor a racist one.

@Cruiser Two recent examples….

Michael Dunn
http://www.npr.org/2014/02/06/272638039/another-florida-case-puts-stand-your-ground-back-in-court

Curtis Reeves
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-florida-theater-shooting-bail-denied-20140207,0,1380543.story#axzz2sxa1YifC

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Agreed, but in these cases, these white men seemed to believe they SHOULD be obeyed. which is what I find odd.

The ex-policeman, Mr. Dunn, had SWAT guys and all kind of people begging for him to be freed on bail, it’s so bizarre.

Thanks for the links @KNOWITALL as now I can see where you are coming from. Personally I don’t think this is a “white male” superiority issue. I live outside Chicago where people get shot and killed on a daily basis. You almost never hear about the homicides because it is so routine here and a majority are black men blowing each other away.

It only becomes news when a white guy is the shooter and then a big fuss is made over the shooting. And the case becomes all the more sensational when a cop is involved and the appearance of being above the law comes into focus.

I agree that it’s probably not too much a race issue, at least not from those cases. The Michael Dunn one perhaps, but with Curtis Reeves, the victim was white as well, so that doesn’t seem to be a race case.

But these cases of unarmed people being shot do not seem to me like self-defense. The self-defense argument time and time again seems like bogus. Seems like Dunn shot Davis because he didn’t like that he was being talked to rudely by a [black] teenager. But how that was decided to be a valid reason for killing someone is beyond me. Does seem to be a general male aggression issue—I’m sure the cases of women shooting people over arguments is less common, though not unheard of…

@DominicX The lack of remorse/ ‘what did I do?’ mentality is what bothers me the most.

In the theatre case, the other law enforcement sticking up for him is completely out of line.

In the Dunn case, firing ten shots into a car with three unarmed teenagers is psychotic.

Frankly, this good ole boy club crap is a tired old excuse. They make responsible gun owners look bad, and I resent it.

No white man I know thinks like that, but I live in a generally progressive area.

I hear it on TV and see it in the news online. Yes, there are still stupid ass white men who can’t think past an 8th grade level. They mostly come from the Southern and rectangular states.

A more entitled group of ignorant people does not exists.

“Empty the Mag” is an expression I have heard several times from people I know with concealed carry permits. It is not one that gives me a great deal of confidence in their mental faculties. I prefer folks who have a little more restraint.

@rojo Yeah but that’s kind of the rule when you’re in a life and death situation. If you pull your weapon you’re going to use it before the other guy does, and you shoot to kill, not maim or scare. That’s just best practices really. Although I also prefer folks with a little more restraint, and the intelligence to pick your battles wisely, which is how I feel these folks failed us and themselves and of course, their victims.

I have read in the past where, in legal circles, a more “measured” response is looked upon more favorably than a scorched earth one.

I don’t think it’s a matter of superiority, rather just stupidity. Both people overreacted to the situation they were in. Perhaps there was anger management issues for both of these people, who knows.

Both shooters could have removed themselves from the situation they were in rather than shooting. I saw a video of the movie theater, there were plenty of empty seats. The other guy was in a parking lot, surely he could have moved if he was that bothered by the car he parked next to.

To answer yes or no, that “all” white males feel a certain way would be an incorrect assumption. Perhaps in one region of the country or world, there is more likelihood that more may feel that way, but even then, it’s a generalization. There are white men who feel superior, white men who feel inferior, white men who don’t think about color and white men who do, white men who live in areas where being white is not necessarily an advantage, white men who may be mentally ill, or their mamas told them they’re wonderful, or they’ve grown up spoiled or any number of various possibilities.

If you are referring to this certain bunch of people who committed a crime, then the question should be worded to reflect that.

Sort of like asking “Do you still beat your wife?”

There are out-of-control pseudo-alpha nutcases of all races and they do the same sorts of things where they’re from.

It doesn’t apply to all and would just as likely apply to any of any color. It’s not a “Whites” exclusive thing.

I think some do.

Interestingly, a recent book was published analyzing successful groups in America. They foundnthe groups that did well tended to take pride inntheir group identification; basically feel special. Special that they were Chinese, or Cuban, etc. Then they said if that is coupled with feeling like you are a minority or need to prove something it breeds success. New immigrant groups, first and secnd generation seem to have these qualities. By the third generation some of it has faded.

My only point, to give a different slant to the conversation, is it doesn’t seem unusual for people to feel special in their group. I do think that is different than actually feeling better than others because of ones race, but I assume some people use their race as a big part of their identity? I don’t know. If someone asks me my identifiers being white does not occur to me. Female, Jewish, American, those are some of what comes to my mind.

Anyone who harms or hates another person because they are a different race is so beyond my comprehension. But, a whole bunch of things happen in this world beyond my comprehension.

Yes, check out Congress and Fox News.