Should I save up for a televison? Or a PS4?

Radio and internet streaming are good enough for me. I personally have no use for cable; most of that stuff can be found on the internet.

@jerv Can you suggest some good YouTube video’s? I am happy because tonight I have a barrel of KFC and I can stay up tonight.

Without knowing your tastes, not really. But I will say that YouTube isn’t the only video site around.

I would suggest you buy a TV. A PS4 will continue to cost you money even after you buy it.

No. TV is a waste of time and so is a PS4. Try going outside and experiencing life using your original avatar.

@rojo That is of course a good thing to do. But some of us can’t do that as easy as others. So what’s wrong with being entertained?

However…..how could one play a PS4 without a TV?

I have a TV. I use it solely as a 32” computer monitor to stream internet video, and as a DVD player via my computers optical drive.

Unless you already have an HDTV, DON’T get the PS4. You need an HDTV to play PS4, the console is not compatible with tube TV’s. (and if it was, the picture and text would be warped to the seven hecks like it is on PS3, if you play THAT on an old TV)

@Mimishu1995 Well yeah, it’s a console, you need to buy games for it. Plus the PS+ subscription to play online. Without it, most of the console’s features don’t even work, which IS lame, I admit. (besides playing games, but online won’t work, just single player)
60 dollars a year for the subscription, but since I’ve been paying that for three years on my PS3, makes no difference to me. On PS3, it’s for getting deals and discounts on the PSN, playing online is free; if you want to save money, you could always get a PS3…has a lot more games out obviously, and the console will not be shafted by Sony for a long time just because the PS4 is out. (deals on PS4 are also there)
And although the PS3 CAN be played on old TV’s…I wouldn’t recommend it. The picture blows, and the text can barely be read.

So if you don’t have an HDTV, get one before buying a PlayStation. If you’re wanting to use the PS4 as a computer though, and don’t plan to play any games…DON’T. The net capabilities of the PS4 SUCK. Any video that is not approved by Sony doesn’t even work. No YouTube, unless it’s the official Sony version. (which sucks, like as if I need that to look up game trailers and news) The PS3 does all the internet stuff better than PS4, and it’s inferior…well, technically, it’s more efficient on PS4…but they don’t let you DO anything.
If it’s just for net surfing and video watching, just get a smartTV. Those will fit all your needs if you don’t plan on playing video games.

(I’m assuming you do, but you never know…)

@Symbeline Don’t forget the PC games, many of them free, and quite a few that won’t run on a laptop.

@jerv Yeah, if I was a PC gamer, I definitely wouldn’t rely on a laptop for that. (unless they come out with some kind of specialized laptop made for gaming, but never heard of anything like that)

@Symbeline I have, but none are as powerful as a gaming desktop that’s half the price, and I doubt @talljasperman is up for dropping two grand, so a $400–500 desktop makes sense.

Thing is about laptops, you can’t really upgrade them. (at least as far as I know) If it was ME I’d get the PC instead so I could keep playing new games. Even if you don’t know how to insert new parts in, someone somewhere will. And if I can figure out how to add memory or upgrade cards everyone can haha. Mind you I do this rarely, and it’s not for games, just when my rig gets too ancient.

@Symbeline Many of the arguments against consoles also apply to laptops. Hence why the Master Gaming Race uses desktop PCs. Leave the low-spec, non-upgradable hardware for the plebes!

Join the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race. Get a PC.

@jerv I’ve been a console gamer all my life, making the switch is probably never going to happen, but don’t think I’ve never considered PC games. (love me emus though, for sure) After playing Metro Last Light, I so want to play some of those Fallout games now.
Another thing is I love trophies. (PlayStation, although Xbox has achievements…but no platinums, so no.)
Yes, they serve no purpose, no, you can do nothing with them…they’re for bragging rights. But I grew addicted to them. I wanted to show you you my gaming card…but since it’s April’s Fools day, they messed up all the profiles, put in lame user titles and filled the backgrounds with ponies. Uuuugh.

Oh well here it is anyway. You might not get the trophy thing, but if you understand it, you’ll see what I’m obsessed about. To tell you the truth, I may not even play games all that much were it not for the trophies. That said, if PC gaming ever comes up with such a gig, I’d try it out haha. (I know Valve has something like that going on, and Nintendo is about to jump that boat as well if I’m not mistaken)

O.k. an update I bought a 19” screen lcd hd for $129 from Walmart.

@Symbeline I love Gran Turismo, so I’m not entirely unsympathetic, but there aren’t enough console-exclusive games for me to justify paying more than I paid for my more powerful system just to pay more per-game for something that’ll takeup space iI don’t have.

@jerv Lol I’m just recently finding out that all the indie games I love so much all come from Steam. but they’re achievement/trophy scheme is all broken. Although I understand people on there don’t care about trophies as much as PS/Xbox peeps.

But right now another thing, I’m extremely dirt poor right now. I’ve not bought a single video game since last Summer. My subscription to PS+ keeps me supplied with free games. (needs renewal next Septmeber, got lots of time) You get at least two free games a month, and not crap, either. So even if I wanted to make the switch to PC, or include it in my gaming, it’s not possible right away. I can’t afford a new one, nor could I keep up with the upgrades PC gaming demands. Least not until I can find a better job. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again though, I sure love my emulators.

@Symbeline What demands? Shop right, and your PC will be technically relevant longer than a console will. I’ve had the same $500 core rig since 2010, and the video card I got to upgrade last year would’ve been only ~$100 if not for the fact that it were a birthday gift. No monthly fees either, at least none on top of my normal internet bill.

By demands I mean having to get new graphic and sound cards and stuff for new games coming out. Mind you I have no idea how persistent that is or how much the PC needs to be upgraded, say per year? I know it happens though. if not, I’d welcome the information, for sure, besides what you already gave If just one graphic card update per five years then…yeah…that rocks to no end.
So far as consoles go though, those can last you an eternity, if you take care of them, you just can’t upgrade them, (besides harddrives) But the games that come out for them obviously don’t ever require that you upgrade the console, not physically anyways, they have patches and everything for that that you just dl.
Perhaps you can see why I’m slightly torn here. (heck my SNES still works, and I got that back in 1995 lol…but yeah, who wants to play that now haha)

@Symbeline You can get a $50 card every year, or a $120 card every 3–5 years. Buy cheap and you’ll buy twice. Buy high-end, and you’ll overspend. Get something in the sweet-spot (or buy used) and you’ll be good to go for <$100/yr.

Update… I bought a 19 inch RCA television from Wal-Mart for $120.

or steal, and get it for free

Update. I order books from Amazon and add to the wish list for fun. My sister bought me a Big Tv and a better mattress and a surface pro. Everything is Awesome!

Update: I have a tv now.

Update: I signed a three year contract with my cable provider and they sent me a 55” flat screen tv free.