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So now, I apologize for the longest explanation you have probably ever seen here (remember I am new to this), and ask my questions: Am I crazy to miss him? What are your thoughts? Thank you for all your time, consideration, and above all, your patience.

Asked by whydoimisshim (13points) April 8th, 2014

First of all, I have to state: the Internet never ceases to amaze me. I was searching for a site to ask random questions and I am still in complete wonder that I found not only one, but several! I had no idea this particular site existed! It looks really cool and at some other time I will sit down and properly evaluate its features and add it to my list of online resources. This is crazy! Well, but now to business, in a matter of speaking. I have jumped into it immediately so I do not really know yet how any of it works but I am going to roll with it for now (plus it is now two in the morning and I should be sleeping but in the spirit of finding answers I am going to ask the question anyway as quickly as I can). Please forgive the length of it all, but that is my writing style when I am in a highly reflective state, the same state of mind which has brought me to crazily search for random answers on the Internet. The thing is, I have exhausted my other sources of advice, so naturally here I am…

Briefly, to help you understand some of the many layers which makes this situation difficult: I am very open with my family. I was raised with a strong family core and I never had problems sharing anything with them, except when it came to relationships. I am now 23, and I started this whole “relationship business” at the age of 19, so I do not have much experience at all, and because, on top of it all, this is the one aspect of my life I do not share with my family, or even most of my friends for that matter, I have over-complicated everything in that realm for myself by isolating myself from my best sources of guidance. Thus, I have no guidance in this realm (and yes, I call it a “realm” because this whole “love business” is one complex mess, it deserves an entity).

That being said, as you can imagine, naturally, I have made many mistakes in these few years of “exploring”. Ok, you now have the setting, on to the story. Well, I suppose you need to know also how it is we came to meet…Hopefully you will not judge me too harshly…I met this guy at a laundry place, and true to fashion I was all too ready to easily fall into another “relationship” (if you can even call it that) which would probably not end, albeit gravely, but certainly not be worthwhile either (but with no guidance in this realm and being a hopeless romantic and always seeming to have otherwise, mostly, good judgment except when confronted with the opposite sex, I find I really just cannot help myself). Yes, I, too would say it can be a problem…

Anyway, pardon the digression, the guy…I gave him my number, he called about a week later, came to see me about another week later at my place (and yes, unfortunately, my judgment was again greatly impaired to let that which you can imagine happen) and one second time before he disappeared for three weeks (which he claimed he was in jail for, and I was later to find out was not true) and then called me again. Important facts: in none of these calls nor encounters did we ever establish we were anything, if we were anything you could say we were bonded by the infamous “friends with benefits” deal (I know, I know, again, please remember: impaired judgment!) and I (blind and naïve and against the warnings given to me by my housemates which met him by obligation just by happening to share the same living space with me) thought I really liked him and somewhere down the road maybe, for once, it might turn into a viable relationship.

Now in the weeks he had disappeared I had gone back to see my family so I was no longer in the same city. This is important because when he made that call after three weeks of wandering the invisible world (pardon my sarcasm), and he was expecting to visit, he could not because I was in a different city (not horribly far but far enough). And to top it off, I was with my family for winter break and also there were issues in determining exactly how fast I would be able to return to living on my own back in that city (a story for another time). So I told him my estimate would be I would return in a month. He was not happy but he seem to accept it pretty well. There were three to four calls after this one, with some texts in between but then he disappeared again for a week (I did not hear from him).
And here it begins: When he called once more, after that week had passed, he had had problems with his phone and was borrowing his uncle’s to make the call. He also informed me he was staying at his uncle’s for the night and that he would call again the next day.

Three days pass and I decide, nettled by the fact he did not call when he said he would (by now a pattern with him) to try to contact him. I still had the number he had used for the last call. He had not clarified whether this was the number he would be using from then on, but it was the only number I had knowing his other phone had died. To keep it safe, because I remembered he had said he had been using his uncle’s phone, I kept the message simple in case I would encounter the uncle and not him (and this is also why I texted and not called). I remember it clearly: “Good morning Guy. Is this the number you are using now?”

I had been right to be cautious, for, it was the uncle who answered. He asked who I was, I introduced myself politely, and informed him I was wondering what had happened to his nephew. I was surprised to find out his uncle did not even know and had also not seen him for three days, but promised that if he returned to his house he would let his nephew know I had messaged. I thanked him and wished him a good day.

(I only just realized I have nearly written a whole essay! Do forgive me people, can you tell I do not do this often?)

Three more days pass, again I message, again the uncle replies and promises to let him know. Now the turning point: the very next day, on the fourth day, the uncle contacts me in the morning asking me if I had heard from his nephew. I informed him I was just as information-less as he. He promised again that if he were to see him he would let him know I was still wondering. Again, I politely wished him a good day and he politely wished me a good day back.

That same evening he messages me again, asking if I had heard anything. Again I reply no, but this time, shockingly, out of the blue he calls me! Surprised and not really fully registering why he would need to call me I answered and barely spoke many a word. The conversation is not much different from the text conversation and the call is brief.

But, then, would you have guessed? I know I did not. He sends me (and remember this is the uncle not the guy I had been trying to locate for days at this point) another text, which at the time I found creepy. I remember this one clearly too: “Not to be rude but you seem like a person I would like to get to know better. Call I call you from time to time?” Shocked and trying to politely tell him to go to (you know where), I replied: “I am sure we will get to know each other better when Guy introduces us.” He seemed to read between the lines and replied, something along the lines of “Ok.”

Three more days pass. At this point, I have given up looking for Guy and decided to just forget about it all, I knew I was not giving much up being that we had never really “been” anything. Now it gets crazy: that evening the uncle texts me. I remember the conversation well:
Uncle: “Hello. Do you have any news?”
Me: “No, do you have any?”
Uncle: “Any what?”
Me: “News” (I really wanted to put an exclamation mark here but I was trying to be polite)
Uncle: “Lol call you in a minute ok?”

Yes, I was confused too. What did he need to call me for? And, you probably guessed it, judgment again impaired, when he called I answered.

The conversation flow on my end was cautious. The whole situation was bizarre to me. On his end, he seemed excited. He asked me what I was studying, planning to study, where I was from, how I came to meet Guy…Light conversation. Then it changed gradually: he started to mention how he had asked Guy about me, how he came to know I was beautiful (it’s all subjective), how he thought my vocabulary was enchanting how he had fallen in love with my voice. I frankly did not know how to react. I had never even met him! Then he asked the notorious question: why a pretty girl like me did not have a boyfriend. I explained to him how that was what I had hoped I would find in Guy eventually (in an ideal world where Guy was actually I guy I thought he was…).

And this is where everything changed. He put it to me straight: it was never going to happen. His nephew was erratic and still ungrounded at the sprightly age of 32. This is how I first found out how old Guy was, I had never thought to ask him before (Impaired judgment remember?). I was not bothered by it, I have always been (for better or worse) into older guys. As we were on the subject of age, he asked me mine and I naturally asked him for his. I was shocked to find out the uncle was 38, only 6 years older than Guy.

He also mentioned how he had seen Guy with another girl. And how when he asked Guy if it would be all right to talk to me, that Guy seemed completely nonchalant on the matter. The way he described it made me finally see the reality check people (the few who knew about Guy, so, my housemates) had tried to give me. So I got mad and when people get mad, and they are already prone to impaired judgment, well you can imagine…So I talked! My spirit got vengeful and I actually now started allowing thoughts of giving the uncle a chance.

The crazy thing is, we talked the entire night, and the next night he called and we repeated. And as crazy as it is, I began to really like him, to sincerely consider him. And for an inexperienced girl with impaired judgment towards the opposite sex, always giving herself completely and receiving barely a quarter of the other person in turn, who only ever asked for a mutual display of interest and never got it in all her limited “experiments” (for, that folks is the correct term which describes my four previous encounters before the uncle), his high level of interest, his almost corny, overly hopeless romanticism, yet wonderfully sweet, wonderfully refreshing dedication to trying to inspire my interest in him was something I had never experienced. And I did fall, and quickly, and I really, really, came to like him, to consider him.

Guy finally appeared and found out, finally called, to yell at me infinite vulgarities and insults, and tell me lies about the uncle, which did at first cause me to want to send them both to h-well you know where-but it passed and he never called again. His uncle had been right in telling me his nephew’s interest level was low, right in telling me Guy was not ready for a relationship of any type. And after the storm it was just us, and with each night we got to know each other more, talking from the minute when he got off his night shift into the early morning only a few minutes before he would have to leave to morning shift (sleep seemed such a small thing to sacrifice), sending messages throughout the day, him, averaging three to four calls each day (the late one included) just to hear my voice. And the days turned into weeks and then into a month, and by then we both considered myself his girl.

He was burning to see me as much as I wanted to see him but I was still with my family. We set a date to meet up. I would spend the weekend with him, come down to his place and finally meet him in the flesh, this marvel among males. And everything was, as they say, rose.
Now we have reached (finally) the purpose for which I came. On the eve of the date we were to meet there was no late night conversation. On the day of, no word. That evening I received a call from an unknown number and not recognizing it I did not answer. More silence. The next day, in the evening, I receive a call from the same number, I decide to pick it up, wondering, hoping, it might be him. It was, but in the most unfortunate way. It was call from him coming to me from a state prison. Out of shock I hung up before setting up the necessary account in order to receive collect calls from him, there.

I did not want to believe it. He had mentioned he had been there before, but long ago. And so now this the problem I have. After finally accepting the fact that, that is where he is I want to talk to him and find out what happened. But I never thought to ask him for his last name and I need a name in order to get his information and be able to connect with him. I called everywhere I researched that might have been able to help me and they all told me the same: I needed to wait until he calls again. A month and a half has now passed. I am still waiting and do not know what to do. I still do not know what happened and I am sick with worry and wondering. It is my belief that when I hung up on that second call he either thought he had dialed the number in wrong or that I had abandoned him.

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13 Answers

ucme's avatar

Pigeons

Mimishu1995's avatar

Welcome to Fluther!

I have read your whole description. And I’m not annoyed at all at its length since I’m sometimes lengthy like this as well well, only less than you :p My only advice to you are:
1. You should reduce your emotion’s decription. It makes the whole question unnecessarily long.
2. You should reduce the details of your relationship with Guy. It seems that he doesn’t play a much important role in your story apart from being a nephew and lead you to the uncle.

It seems that now you’re left with only his first name and where he’s currently in, no more, no less. And you still can’t stop missing him.

Can you still contact with Guy? He doesn’t sound like having cut all relationship with you. Call him and try to talk him into giving you details of the uncle and don’t let him know you love the uncle. I guess he still keep the uncle’s phone.

tedibear's avatar

Are you “crazy” to miss him? No. Unrealistic and immature, but not “crazy.”

What are my thoughts? He’s not genuinely interested in you but is enjoying playing games.

gailcalled's avatar

TL;DR. What @tedibear said.

Mimishu1995's avatar

@trailsillustrated @gailcalled Be nice a little. This is a new jelly.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Seems like you need to wait for a man to treat you with honest love & respect. They both sound like players.

janbb's avatar

I did read it all. You write well but a bit more summarizing next time would be helpful.

If you miss him, you miss him. That is the feeling. But what you need to do about it is…keep away. Both men sound like trouble. You gave your heart – and possibly something else – much too soon.

Take more time the next time and keep away from these guys. Chalk it up to a learning.

Juels's avatar

Umm… An uncle hitting on his nephew’s (sort-of) girlfriend is creepy. That both men were/are in prison is a great, big, flashing, neon, warning sign. Get away from both of these guys.

marinelife's avatar

Run far away. Move and do not give him your address.

Stop having relationships with everyone you randomly encounter. From your limited experience, make a list of what you need and want in a dating relationship. First on the list, respect for your time and person, which so far you have not demanded.

What interests do you have? Do you like swing dancing? Rock climbing? Hiking? Music? Join a group that caters to those interests. Check people out as friends before you think about dating them.

You seem too smart and well-written to be this naive.

flutherother's avatar

It was an interesting and enjoyable read but too long for Fluther. I don’t think you are crazy to miss him but you are crazy to get so involved with him, or them, in the first place. I wouldn’t use impaired judgement as an excuse for what you are doing. You are aware of your bad judgement but you maybe aren’t aware of how damaging the consequences might be. I would forget the two of them and be more mature and careful in future.

redhen4's avatar

Of course you miss him. It was a roller coaster ride, then it came to a fast stop. For a short period of time it was fun, exciting, he paid attention to you, you were his “world”. Then nothing.

Many years ago I had an “internet relationship” with a guy. We wrote and IM’d constantly, never spoke on the phone, but we were “there” for each other. He sent me flowers to work assorted gifts and cards. He acted like I was his whole world, and he was mine. But WE NEVER EVER MET face to face. We were suppose to, but he never showed. And it came to an end.

I understand how you feel, and you want to know more, and you want to find him.

Let it be. If he is in prison, he was just using you as entertainment, like my guy did. He was housebound, did not work, had lots of time on his hands.

I recommend forgetting him. It won’t be easy, I understand how you felt. But neither he nor the nephew sound like people you want in your life.

That’s my 2 cents worth. (see, I write long too!)

Kardamom's avatar

This particular guy is just not that into you. He is interested in you, only when it’s convenient to him. You don’t have a relationship with him. Walk away from him now, or else you will continue to be treated as a second thought, a convenience when he is bored or lonely or horny.

You said you used to be open and honest with your close knit family. Go to them now, tell them what has happened and get back to talking with them and accepting their advice.

Next time a guy starts to treat you like you’re not very important, just walk away and don’t look back. Don’t feel guilty about missing him, but don’t let that pain get in the way of your moving forward and finding someone who does really like and care about you.

Don’t ever put guys on a pedestal. Don’t ever try to talk yourself into believing that some guy is terrific when you’ve clearly been given red flags.

Note: learn how to edit your writing and get to the most important facts without having to list every single excruciating detail of the situation. Learn to do that with your relationships too and you’ll be doing yourself a great service.

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