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Do you think they'll let my 8-year-old, third grade grandson retake the state exams?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47072points) April 24th, 2014

Aden is sharp as a tack. Mind like a steel trap. He has an exceptional memory. However, he is selective in using it and has a somewhat short attention span. He gets bored and wants to move on to something else. They could probably get him diagnosed with ADD if they wanted to push it, but neither his mom nor his dad and his wife want to see the kid on drugs,so they just deal with it as it comes.

Before she moved Corrie had Aden ½ of the time, and he did better when he was with her because she’d make him do his homework, look it over, and make him redo it if he just blew off some of the work. I don’t know that his dad and step mom takes that kind of time.

Well, Corrie moved about 65 miles away at the end of February. It was necessary. She sees Aden and Brande, his sister, every other weekend. However,all parties have agreed that she’ll have her kids every other week during the summer.

Since she moved Aden has really tanked in school…and he failed his state exam. He was the first one done, and he just blew through it. Corrie said he got every answer wrong.
She was so mad! His step mom called Corrie, and Corrie talked to Aden. She told him that he now had 2 choices:

1) Go to summer school
2) Repeat the 3rd grade.

If he has to go to summer school he won’t be able to visit every other week, along with his sister Brande, because he’ll be stuck here going to school.

If he doesn’t go to summer school, he’ll be repeating the 3rd grade while the rest of his friends move on to the 4th.

Well, he was crying by the end of that conversation.

He can do the work. He knows the subject matter. There is NO reason at all for him to have to repeat 3rd grade.

He would be highly motivated now to pass the exams. Do you happen to know if they’ll let him take them over?

State exams suck. It should be the teacher’s call whether the kids pass or not. It breaks my heart to think of the stress he’ll be under to pass if he’s allowed to take the exam again. (“Oh God. I won’t be able to see my Mom. Oh God. All my friends will move on without me.”) This just sucks. But….well, maybe this will be a wake up call….

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dappled_leaves's avatar

How could any of us know the answer to this question? Just call the school board in question and ask them.

Dutchess_III's avatar

We’re waiting to hear back now. It’s possible others here have experienced this with their own kids. That’s how some of us might know the answer to the question.

It’s also possible this could develop into an interesting conversation. That’s one of the hallmarks of Fluther, and the reason it isn’t called “Yahoo Answers.”

gailcalled's avatar

Since you want an educated guess from a stranger, I vote for summer school along with an evaluation…that will not mandate that this child be put on drugs but might give the adults some techniques for dealing with his particular study habits, attention span, and present state of mind.

since she moved, he just tanked in school indicates many other issues Aden is dealing with…not just rushing through tests.

It is vital that both his mom and his dad (and by indirection, his step-mother) be in agreement on his behavior. Repeating the third grade is simply punitive, will not solve any of his present problems and will cause new ones.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Forfeiting his vacation to summer school is the sort of brutal lesson that a talented 3rd grader will carry for the rest of his academic life regarding the consequences of deliberate underachievement. It might be well worth it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I agree @gailcalled. Yes, he is dealing with other issues that are contributing to the problem, which is why I mentioned them in the details. And I agree that repeating 3rd grade would be of no benefit, and of some detriment, although, if that happened I can see him quickly catching up to the point they’ll move him on up to 4th within the 1st month.

I agree with you too, @stanleybmanly. Seriously…under the circumstances it would be pretty damn traumatic for him.

On the other hand, it WOULD be a lesson for the future. You can’t just pick and choose what you want to do and what you want to blow off. Life doesn’t work that way.

I was just wondering if any of you have had any experience with this kind of thing.

jca's avatar

@gailcalled: I don’t believe any evaluation could “mandate” the child be put on drugs, i.e. force the parent to give the child medication.

I don’t know the answer to the question, but I do agree it would be beneficial for the child to be seen by a professional. He has a lot going on right now and more issues than just test taking.

Dutchess_III's avatar

There sure are. Corrie just called. She talked to the teacher. This was just a “pilot” test. It doesn’t count for anything. But there are problems. The teacher said that at recess Aden plays by himself, and if you watch him he’s playing out his video games. In class he’ll “zone out,” and not pay attention because he’s playing video games in his mind. He’s always had that propensity, even when he was smaller, to replay things in his mind. He’d repeat entire movies, including sound effects, when he was just 4. He’d just talk on and on, whether anyone was listening or not. The ENTIRE movie. Accurately. So there is a blessing and a curse, all mixed up in there.

Corrie and Janelle, Aden’s step mother, both agree that Aden should see someone, and that his video games should be curtailed. However, Quentin, his dad, disagrees, and at this point he holds the reins. Janelle and Quentin have two other children and I guess Aden is his “Golden Boy” and can do no wrong, in his eyes. If there is something wrong, its always someone elses fault, not Aden’s. This is a bad situation starting to develop here. How can some people be so blind?

jca's avatar

@Dutchess_III: So if the teacher makes a recommendation, the father won’t act on it? If the teacher says the kid should curtain video games, the father won’t heed that recommendation?

Dutchess_III's avatar

No. The way he sees it, if Aden is having problems in school it the teacher’s fault, the school’s fault, not Aden’s. Aden is perfect you see. I happen to think he’s pretty damn perfect myself, but I’d never let my love over shadow what is best for him, even if what is best is something he doesn’t like.

Cruiser's avatar

All I can say it was in 3rd grade that we found out our very bright smart son had Sensory Processing Disorder. School was overwhelming him and attacking all his senses and experienced sensory overload. Long story short we got a diagnosis and we were now able to access additional help through the school and district with an IEP program that set up conditions and options that our son had access to. Some were the ability to have more time to take his tests and also in a smaller room that was less distracting to him. It was a difficult and delicate time for him, 4th grade was a real rough year for him and 5th got better and by 6 he was going strong with the rest of his peers. Now in High School we still have his IEP program in place so he can continue to have the extra help and support when he needs it.

Contact the school/teacher/counselor and communicate the changes Aden has experienced and the effect it has had. The schools are well versed in how changes in young lives can be so disruptive and often can offer strategies in and out of the school they can help him with. It may take some pushing to get them to actually do something but be persistent and do not hesitate to contact the district supervisor either.

Cruiser's avatar

@Dutchess_III You just mentioned how perfect Aden is. Perfect is a great place for a child to be, but from his perspective, perfect can be a pretty high pedestal to be on. My oldest was one of those perfect students really kicked butt in school. Came to find out that it put a tremendous amount of pressure on him to not disappoint all those people, family, friends that saw him as this perfect student. One day out of the blue he failed a test and it turned out he did it on purpose because he was tired of being perfect and just wanted to be normal like the others kids in his class.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Good advice @Cruiser. His dad is probably creating a problem because he blindly thinks the kid really is perfect. I only think he’s perfect because he’s my grandson. I think ALL my grandkids are perfect (they take after their gramma what way. :) But it wouldn’t stop me from putting their perfect butts in lock down if I needed to.

I’ll talk to my daughter.

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