@stanleybmanly A truly extraordinary imagination is required to visualize a single mother with 6 kids “sitting on her butt”.
Well, maybe that is not all the way true, sometimes they are at the mall, the nail salon, the club, or over at one of many lover’s bed making brother or sister number X. Some are smart, they know how to pawn the kids off on grandma, aunty, uncle, or their siblings.
But there is indeed logic in the fact that if a woman’s meager living allowance from the state exceeds the wages the STATE requires she be paid by an employer, she’d be a fool to work for LESS.
And there is the rub, some people out of pride will fight tooth and nail to NOT take a handout, government or otherwise. Others will see it as being there to use, and more profitable than busting one’s hump for way less; that would be illogical. The government has not seen the folly of this yet, or at least seen it and don’t care.
There is a constant incessant drone from the right to define those at the bottom as shiftless defectives eager to embrace the government dole.
Because some are, they know how to ”game” the system and teach others how to do it as well. Some use it as a way to get the government to pay their dope habit. These are the people that paint the canvas that the rest of you see, and some think it is all the people on the dole, and not a small number of them.
@JLeslie Not only when working earns the person less, but also when it is very hard to get aid, once on, the person doesn’t want to let it go and have to go through that whole rigamarole again.
That is part of the reason people I know on a fixed income don’t want to tinker with it. If they tried to crawl out of the hole, the government could kick them back down in an instance, but trying to get back to the lips of the hole again could take far longer. There should be no penalty for trying to get off state aid even if it means you for a time earn more than they want you to have.
I don’t know the perfect solution, but I know right now the system encourages more babies, not discourages it.
Society doesn’t help either. A better system would be to use the money that is being spent now more effectively. Part of which would be to take some of the money and use for job training, free job training. The government should have live-in training centers where the rent is dirt cheap, there is free childcare, and job training all at the same campus, and then no one has to spend money on commuting, and they won’t have an excuse why they could not make their classes. Since the utilities, etc. and housing is handled; if there were not a free cafeteria there on campus they give the clients an ample stipend for clothes, toiletries, food, and such. That would IMO be a more efficient way to spend some of the money they are wasting now.
@jerv In the big picture, the real flaw is our society of selfishness, greed, and sociopathic lack of empathy.
That is something we can agree on. Just curious, where do you think that came from?