What's the deal with all the girls globally being kidnapped and sold into slavery?

Well, you know how they say rape isn’t really about cumming and more about power. These guys are polite rapists.

Not being into human trafficking, i’ve no idea how much the deal is worth.

Going to a bar, or meeting some skirt at the mall or a party entails work, he has to talk to her, get her to like him, and then spend money that may not even lead to the horizontal mambo. I would think these Johns logically want to cut to the chase; spend cash for this, this, and that, then be gone, no call the next morning, or trying to sneak out or get her out of the house. Whether or not the Johns even consider the gal they paid to boink is doing it because she needs the money or being forced under threat of violence doesn’t even come into play; or they vanquish the thought from their minds.

Because traditionally in the abrahamic religions, doing it with a free woman is adultery (especially if it turns out that she is not a virgin, then it is stoning for both), but doing it with a sex slave is permitted, because she is your property and you can do whatever you want with your property, as long as you do not beat her so hard that she dies in a matter of hours. Besides, traditionally woman are objects and property, not people, so treating them with any sort of respect is out of the question to these traditionalists.

This has been much in the news because of the mass kidnapping of 200–300 young women by extremists. In the current case, it’s my understanding that the women were 16–18 years old, massed for some kind of testing and were kidnapped to be forced into marriage. It’s not an isolated occurrence and probably has roots back to women being chattel and ‘to the victor go the spoils’.

It’s so foreign to Western culture that few of us can wrap our minds around it, and there’s no way to prevent the kidnappings without understanding the dynamics behind them. In many ways it’s like Western culture meeting the American Indian again.

“Take them to a movie and dinner?” Dan, these young girls are dragged down the street by several men, beaten up and forced into prostitution and it has been going on all over the world for a very long time! Check out “forced prostitution in Moldova.”

From the News, I read that this happened to almost 300 young women a couple of weeks ago. Since this was Muslim men kidnapping Christian girls it doesn’t really matter does it? If this was reversed the whole world including the U.N. would be in an uproar.

I think the whole world, including the U.N. is in an uproar over it, @BeenThereSaidThat. That’s what I was posting about above. It’s not a new or isolated incident. Likely the women are dispersed over the country harboring them, and many are in marriages legally sanctioned in the host country. Literally, ”What can be done?

The Islamist group that took the girls will release them for ransom money.
There are now many videos on other sites where the leader of the Islamist group says: Source

“I abducted your girls,” said the leader of Boko Haram, which means “Western education is sinful.”
He described the girls as “slaves” and said, “By Allah, I will sell them in the marketplace.” The hour-long video starts with fighters lifting automatic rifles and shooting in the air as they chant “Allahu akbar!” or “God is great.”

In the video, Shekau also said the students “will remain slaves with us.” That appears a reference to the ancient jihadi custom of enslaving women captured in a holy war, who then can be used for sex.”

Somewhere else I saw they are being sold for $12 as sex slaves to the troops.
Allah must be very proud, indeed.

Dan, if you weren’t so fucking old, I’d swear you were a virgin.

They are saying that women has no right to be educated and should remain housewives. That is so stupid!

The SAY that women have not right to be educated but look at the girls/women they are “marrying” – the ones going to the school !

I am still astounded by the $12 figure. Is that indicative of how much they value human life?
How does the conversation go? “Hey Abdul I’ll give you these 10 girls for an AK-47.” “Throw in a goat and 2 sheep and you’ve got a deal.” “Allahu akbar!”

So proud.

@Espiritus_Corvus How do you know I’m not a virgin?
And by the way, 59 is not so fucking old anymore, my friend.

@ibstubro I stand by my statement. The U.N. has done nothing but wring their hands and moan as usual. I guess even the U.N. is afraid of the Muslims.

@ibstubro This has been much in the news because of the mass kidnapping of 200–300 young women by extremists. In the current case, it’s my understanding that the women were 16–18 years old, massed for some kind of testing and were kidnapped to be forced into marriage.
Not all guerilla pimping is done by Middle Eastern extremist; some are just greedy Americans, as I am sure there are in other Western nations. Here in this are it is known there are gangs or people who prey on throw away fringe females, age notwithstanding. They detect which women is homeless and alone, pushed out of foster care to the streets, runaways, or strung out on drugs and force them to work for them in local hotels or be threaten with beatings or worse.

@Aster Dan, these young girls are dragged down the street by several men, beaten up and forced into prostitution and it has been going on all over the world for a very long time!
Even in the shadows of US streets.

Here in Missouri (as well as many other states), there is a history of sex slaves. Keep them in a trailer, apt, or suburbia and make money off the men who pay to be with them.

It’s never going to stop, it’s too lucrative and too easy to hide. Very sad. Of course most of the perps are men, unable or unwilling to get a woman the normal way via dating.

They don’t want women. They want children.

59 is very fucking old to be a virgin!

As stated, the story refers to Boko Haram kidnappings in Nigeria.
They are Islamists. Thus, good luck getting the straight story in the apologetic Western press.

@Hypocrisy_Central Feel free to make your points independent of picking at the posts of others. Frankly I’m embarrassed to be included in a post with such poor English. Presuming “Here in this are it is known there…” is a form of English.

@Dutchess_III I can’t help it. I am saving it till I get married.

Gonna tie the knot on Palm Sunday, @Dan_Lyons?

Yes, her name is Harry Palmer

Trafficking in human beings is as old as our ‘civilisation’...as uncivilised as it is. Girls are sold by their families, young women from Easter Europe are promised jobs in Western Europe, only to arrive and find that it is prostitution. @Dan_Lyons these men don’t want ‘dates’, they want a prostitute or a ‘wife-slave’. The captors want to degrade women and dehumanise them. These girls were science students. In Boko Haram’s mind, these girls need to be taught the lesson that they can not do anything other than serve their men/husbands for their lives and they do not deserve education and even wanting one is against their god’s laws. So, no, they don’t want to take any women out for dinner and a nice chat.

Don’t die a virgin. Seriously. There are terrorists waiting for you up there.

Yes & they taunt you singing that Madonna song…sadistic bastards

And then they stone you because you’re not a virgin any more.

How did Harry Palmer get the nickname Oxide, @Dan_Lyons?

@BeenThereSaidThat

Slavery, including sexual slavery, is as old as human civilization. This isn’t a Christian/Muslim thing. What exactly do you propose be done about it?

@ibstubro Because I gargle with it so she laughs when I am down there doing her and says I am gargling her.

Well, my super hot days are over, but I’ll tell you what, had I ever been kidnapped into the sex slave trade, there would be a lot of men missing their penises. Bite me! Happy to oblige. Heh.

They’d have grossly underestimated my spice.

@Coloma

I would almost guarantee you that after that first attempt you wouldn’t live to make a second attempt.

@Darth_Algar Well…better to die fighting then end up a zombie sex slave.
Death would be preferable.

You can die fighting and still end up as a zombie sex slave

@ragingloli Yes, but perhaps being a zombie sex slave is preferable to being a sex slave who is fully cognizant of his/her actions.

^^^ Well…better to die fighting then end up a zombie sex slave.
Death would be preferable
Once they have some lass high as three kites and hooked like a bass on whatever junk they force into their veins, their ability to fight is gone; even if they manage to make back to “Earth” from whatever trip they are on.

@Coloma

Sure. It’s easy enough to say that when you’re in a position of comfort, safety and security, knowing that the chances that you’ll ever face that situation are astronomical. For those that actually do live in that kind of situation maybe they’re just trying to hang on the the hope that maybe tomorrow will be better.

@Darth_Algar Where in the world did you come up with all that?
All I am relating is that I would fight tooth and nail to escape my captors and that death would be preferable to torture, degradation and all the psychic trauma a woman/girl would endure being held captive like that for months if not years.

@Coloma

Come up with what exactly? Is there anything in my post you find fanciful?

@Darth_Algar Insinuating that just because I may never be faced with this situation that I can’t express my sentiments of how I would choose to react.
I can imagine and I would choose to fight

The desire to live is pretty strong.

@Coloma

I did not insinuate that in the least. You’re reading more into my comments than is there in that regard.

I can imagine that I would choose to fight as well. Or at least I like to think that I would. I use to think about the folks on board the hijacked planes on 9/11 and I’d think “why did they sit back and allow that? What happened to their survival instinct?” Then i realized that maybe survival instinct was entirely the point. Instinct usually comes down to “fight or flight”. Most creatures, human included, choose “flight”. Or if “flight” isn’t an option sit passively by and hope the danger passes. Sure, I’d like to think I’d choose to fight, but when it comes down to it I might not be so bold as I’d like to imagine myself to be. Like I said, it’s easy to talk brave when you’re not actually in danger.

@Darth_Algar Okay, miscommunication, no biggy.

The strength of the desire to live and the conditions acceptable are very individual, @Dutchess_III.

@ibstubro Agree 100%. Everyones idea of what quality of life/living is, is very subjective.

For some of us, the desire to live free overrides the desire to merely survive as a slave. ^^^^

Unfortunately living a life of poverty/denigration increases the chances of a woman accepting the misery of being a slave, a fact that the kidnappers are well aware of and prey upon. A person that has been empowered and independent is much more likely to fight enslavement to the death.

@Dan_Lyons I hear ya there, that has and was, my goal for years, and I pulled it off, sadly, I am now a wage slave again and it is killing my soul.

I know what you mean @Coloma I find some really fine weed helps put my soul back online, as it were!

@Dan_Lyons “For some of us, the desire to live free overrides the desire to merely survive as a slave. ^^^^”

It’s not always that simple. Who knows what kind of drugs these girls may be pumped full of or what lies, coercion and threats they’re subjected to. Also, just as the wildest horse in the right hands can be tamed the most iron-willed person can be broken.

@Darth_Algar Yes, you and @Hypocrisy_Central mention this and I must agree. There are some serious drugs out there and not everyone has the wherewithal to act in their own best interest while stoned to the gills on them.

I would like to say I’d fight, and perhaps I would. But always in the back of my mind I’d be thinking “I can find a way out of this. I can get out of this. But I have to live to get out.” I would have to feel that it would never change, that it was absolutely hopeless, that there was absolutely no chance of getting out, before I’d kill my self or goad someone else into killing me. I’d rather live and be scarred, than not exist at all.

@Dutchess_III

Yup. The natural inclination is to keep living, no matter how bad the situation is. There’s always the hope that things will improve. Maybe tomorrow some opportunity for escape will arise. Or maybe tomorrow someone will fall for you or take pity on you and purchase you from your captors to get you out of there. Maybe tomorrow the police will bust the operation up.

^^^ Yes, I believe we learned this from the holocaust. You know, where millions of millions of people were led to their slaughter but didn’t resist in the vain hope that things would improve.

Godwin’s Law never fails.

Invoking Hitler and the Nazis is absolutely fine if the comparison is apt.

What is Godwin’s Law?

To hell with Godwin’s Law in any circumstance. It is nothing more than a censorship device and it is censorship of the most insidious kind. There is no authority, no state imposition, no political group behind it, it has simply been assimilated into arguments for years by people solely ad populum. It’s people censoring themselves. How fucking ridiculous.

It’s the bloody Soylent Green of argument.

@Espiritus_Corvus

Nobody said anything about censorship. Now calm the fuck down.

@Dutchess_III

Godwin’s Law is the half-humorous observation that, given enough time, Hitler/Nazis/the Holocaust will be brought up in any given discussion on the Internet regardless of the subject.

@ragingloli “Invoking Hitler and the Nazis is absolutely fine if the comparison is apt.”

While this is true the comparison in this case isn’t particularly apt.

[Mod says] Flames off folks. Social will not harbor flame baiting and personal attacks.

Thank you @Seaofclouds. I had a feeling there might have been a little friction here.

Here’s a leetle something for you.

Exactly how are the girls being kidnapped?

Here’s an article featuring one of the teenagers who escaped from Islamic extremists who abducted more than 300 schoolgirls recently.

I read that second one earlier today. It’s what prompted me to ask HOW they’re being abducted.

@Dutchess_III These are heavily armed bands of men. They walk right into the school, force the girls onto trucks and drive away. Sometimes in the middle of the night, sometimes in broad daylight.

Why was I moderated?

That is so terrifying. In America we think of schools as some of the safest places….

Columbine and Sandy Hook, not withstanding, @Dutchess_III

I’ve never gotten my mind around either.

I know. I thought of that too @ibstubro.