@jerv – I think I may have caught you on an “off” day. You’re usually very level and reasonable.
@jerv: ”“Catch” vegetarians? It sounds to me like you’re trying to play the martyr here simply because you belong to a group with a wide enough range to be self-contradictory.”
I’m not a vegetarian. In fact, I eat a fair amount of meat. I suspect the “group” I belong to here is…your’s. However, from 1991 to 2000 I was a vegetarian.
@jerv: “It’s not us being ethically exposed and defensive, it’s us being confused.”
This is actually a factually-incorrect statement. I certainly met the confused. But in 9 years, I had met many people who were far from confused about what vegetarianism was.
@jerv: “But people like you who come across as smugly superior due to your dietary choices are what earns all non-meat-eaters any derision they get.”
Wow. I think I see someone struggling a bit here. Let’s try this…
John: “Have a hamburger.”
me: “no thanks.”
John: “C’mon, you’re not going to eat a plate of leaves and shit now, are you?”
me: “I’m good. Thanks.”
John: “So are you some fucking vegetarian or some shit now?”
me: “I’m a vegetarian, sure.”
John: “Ha! You’re a fucking hypocrite. You’re wearing leather sneakers! You people make me sick.”
me: “Ok.”
John: “So, if animals weren’t meant to be eaten, they wouldn’t taste so good. Mmmm…you want a bite, donnnn’t you….”
me:—-
John: “Well, I’m not going to feel bad. We can’t just let these animals in the wild – they’d just die. It’s better to eat them.”
me: “yep”
John: “I bet you drink milk and eat eggs and shit, right?”
me: “yep”
John: “Ha! That’s the thing about vegetarians. They’re all smug and shit, trying to make us feel bad.”
Note: The above conversation is almost word-for-word, and happened many times.
@jerv: “Don’t insult us omnivores by being so condescending, and don’t expose other vegetarians to undeserved ridicule just because you have a huge ego.”
I’m a fucking omnivore. And if you’re ok with your ethical choices, then you shouldn’t be threatened by the existence of those that do not eat meat. It’s way too obvious. Just relax and do what you feel is right. If you feel it’s immoral to not eat meat, then make that case. But if you’re going to pretend that I am being smug because I have relayed an honest account of my experience, I think you might want to meditate and come back to this thread.
Note: I was a reluctant vegetarian and only spoke about it with my good friends. However, over those 9 years, I was called a “faggot” more than a handful of times, had a piece of hamburger shoved into my mouth, called a hypocrite, and watched the external display of internal struggles that people had. When people find out that someone is doing something for ethical reasons, it calls into question everything that they do, and they react with defense. Case in point.