To INTJ guys: Do you tend to like ENTP girls? And to ENTP girls: Do you tend to like INTJ guys?

Coincidentally enough I am INTJ and my fiance is ENTP. She kinda borders between introvert and extrovert though.

Hahaha…right up my alley here.
I am a female ENTP and have not met a met INTJ, however, that said, I did date a male ENTJ once and he was the most exhausting person ever. Controlling, know it all, bossy, the debate king from hell, EVERYTHING turned into a debate. I couldn’t handle it, at all.

As an ENTP I am bright, highly creative, funny as hell and love stimulating discussion but I am also very diplomatic, non-abrasive, easy going, live and let live, and have no interest in every “conversation” sharing of opinions, turning into an egoic duel to the death.
I’d really like to meet a male ENTP that was mature and easy going like I am, I adore quick wit, playfulness and intelligence but that ENTJ guy left me feeling like I had been run over by a freaking semi. lol

@El_Cadejo Yes, ENTPs are known as the most introverted of the extroverts. I am the same. I am either in social mode and comedienne mode or a total hermit. I can easily amuse myself for days on end if there is nobody available that I find fun and interesting. It’s a quality thing and I have no interest in mundane small talk or just being around people for the sake of a body in my presence if I am not going to enjoy engaging.

@Sayd_Whater Yes, female ENTPs are very rare.
‘They” estimate only 3–4% of the population is ENTP and females at only 1% of that! We are rare birds and should not settle for dumb ducks.
I have always had a very hard time finding compatible people, in general, let alone romantic partners.

I was married to an ISTJ for years and it was a match made in hell.
Free spirited creative with anal, OCD control freak. Now that I have been a student of personality theory for some years I realize that SJ types are the antithesis of compatibility for me. I do have a female ISTJ friend and while she can drive me nuts with her OCD work ethic she is surprisingly open minded, not something you get unless you are dealing with a well developed SJ.

I loathe unhealthy ISFJ’s, so manipulative and passive aggressive and don’t do well under developed ” feelers” always emotionally fragile, high maintenance, upset over something, neurotic and exhausting. Man, have I learned a lot over the years. haha

IDFK.

I’m a female INTJ, and my husband is an ENTP.

I brood, he pukes rainbows. He drags me out of my shell, I calm his crazy ass down from time to time.

I’m guessing my wife is ESFJ, I’m INTJ.

@Blondesjon I wish I could lurve that repeatedly.

I’ve heard that INTJs are the least desirable of guys for most women since these guys aren’t the status quo of male expectations. My scores seem to be divided between being an INTJ and an INTP, but my experience with women in the past tells me this may be true. Personally I don’t care what label a woman is, as long as I don’t have to put up a facade in order for them to like me.

@Seek Haha..I know, I can be highly enthusiastic at times, and adrenaline is my middle name. I have 2 speeds only. Couch potato or racehorse. lol
There is virtually no middle ground.
I have mellowed a lot in my middle age, but when I am stressed or excited about something my energy hits warp speed, as in ” slow down and STFU”. haha

I think ENTPs can burn themselves out easily and also because we are thinkers not sensors we can get really out of touch with our bodies. Ignore them until they break down.
When we are in our inferior mode then we can become a little hypochondriac, start being overly focused on our bodies.” Wow, has that weird little bump always been on my arm or am I dying from elbow cancer.” lol

What is an INTJ and an ENTP?

@Paradox25 “since these guys aren’t the status quo of male expectations.”
Hahah couldn’t describe me better. Machismo is a fucking joke to me.

So what is an INTJ and an ENTP?

@Seek do you know?

@IheartMypuppy

Without getting too deep into it, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a shorthand reference for personality types. It uses four binary traits and sticks them together for a maximum of sixteen “types”.

An INTJ is Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Judging. A “Scientist” type.

An ENTP is Extroverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Perceiving. A “Lawyer”, “Inventor” or “Visionary” type.

What are all the types then?

@Seek /\

There’s

Introversion
Extroversion

Intuition
Sensing

Thinking
Feeling

Perceiving
Judging

Pick one from each pair.

ohhhhh, thanks

Most people are a little of both or a lot of both in all categories. I’m pretty strongly INTJ, but my husband is almost equally ENTP and ENFP. Thinking and feeling both come easily to him.

wait, wouldn’t INTJ actually be IITJ?

Well, can’t have two “I“s, as that would be confusing. So the second I, for Intuition, became an “N”.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

You can test yourself there. All yes/no questions.

Post your result here. I have a guess for what your result will be, and I want to see if I’m right. ^_^

ISFP

BAM I WAS RIGHT!

How could you be right @Seek?

But…......................

I guessed you’d be an SFP type. I wasn’t sure whether it would be introvert or extrovert, but I just KNEW it would be SFP.

I got the Perfecto-Fish award

How’d you guess that?

If you were an NT, you’d have looked up what the MBTI was yourself instead of waiting for someone to explain it to you. The P was mostly a guess.

I’m on a crusade to get all the awards that I possibly can get, and especially the hard ones to get

Good luck! I’ve been here since 2009 and I don’t even have all of them.
And I’m pretty sure some of them are broken.

do you have the perfecto-fish?

how’d you get the to other Atlantis ones?

Let’s talk in PM – we’ve hijacked this thread long enough.

ok, now this is really going off topic

yep

@Seek Hahaha….so dead on that the NT would immediately look up the answers.
We jast HAVE to KNOW and right NOW! lol

You realize that there are no such people as “ENTP” people, right?

The Myers Briggs systm has little validity and even less scientific justification (see here, for instance). The results of the test vary immensely from one test to the next over time.

ENTP is just a Myers Briggs test result. It is the result of a particular test one took at a particular time. Nothing more, nothing less. If you truly think you can clasify people along these results, you are seriously underestimating the complexity and situational dependency of human psychology.

If you are looking for more scientifically based, consistent personality indicators, look at the big-5 model. Wikipedia

@whitenoise The Big 5 model is helpful indeed, however, I have extreme confidence in the MBTI model as well. They are another valuable tool that can be applied in many areas of ones life. Types don’t change, what changes is the level of ones emotional health. Under great stress all types will revert to their inferior modes, the opposites of their true type.

If one takes the MBTI tests, answers honestly, and is in good mental and emotional health their true type will emerge. I have consistently typed ENTP for years.
Brain stack functions are natural traits, the way we absorb, assimilate and process information, which varies from person to person. While these tests do not define the totality of an individual they are invaluable tools towards self and other understanding.

@El_Cadejo This is why I frequently get ticked at many progressives, because there’s a whole bunch of us males who would gladly give up our supposed ‘privileges’.

Hm. The Big Five seems to pigeonhole people into positive vs. negative. Like there is an ideal that most people should strive for, and if you hit the opposite end of any of those traits then there is something wrong with you.

@Seek I think it is about optimum qualities, but yes, it can seem that way.

Myers Briggs is just an invalid system. Entertainment at best.

Abused as selection criterium for jobs at its worst.

It’s like homeopathy.

@whitenoise I agree with you to a reasonable extent. However, I really do think there’s definitely some truth to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. I brought this up because INTPs and INTJs appear to be among the least likely to ‘suffer’ from this.

^^^ Sounds like arrogant asshole effect in laymans terms. lol
@whitenoise Doubt all you want, that’s your perspective and you are entitled to it, but when I discovered the MBTI about 10 years ago, it was life changing. So accurate, a perfect fit and made sense of why I am the way I am. Far too uncannily on the mark to be denied.
An ENTP, spawn of my INTP dad, who really was an Architect. haha

Infact, I think there should be MBTI genetics. haha
My mother was ENFP and my dad INTP and I came out ENTP. Pretty damn perfect blend IMO. Sandwiched between the emotional musician and the quiet architect came a wild little monkey girl. lol

@Coloma I feel the same way about the MBTI. It may not be totally backed by studies, but it described me almost perfectly. It really put a lot of my personality traits into perspective, it also helped me identify a lot of my weaknesses. Maybe it’s just coincidental, but I’m an INTJ and got a degree in a science field.

@El_Cadejo Agreed. Everybody sing now…... Then I saw my type and I’m a believer, I couldn’t leave the MBTI lol

and I’m a female George Carlin. A lot of comedians are ENTP, think Robin Williams, Jim Carry, Goldie Hawn, Carol Burnett and Alicia Silverstone. Off the wall, fast brained, brilliant ding dongs. Breed an Arcitect to a musician get a comedian. lol

And a lot of… well, a lot of fictional awesome people are INTJ. Think Sherlock Holmes, Gandalf, and Dr. House.

Richard Dawkins is probably an INTJ.

Here to once again hijack and jump onto the thread (Just like I love to do when I’ve been away from fluther for a while, but not in the long convoluted way my 13(?) year old self did), to update you all that I retook the test recently and I’m an ENFP (Borderline ENTP so HI THERE!!), I found this thread while reminiscing on my terrible internet etiquette (which I promise has since improved), I have literally never been an introvert but apparently my rave-less days as a 13yo strongly influenced my social answer preferences… One of my friends is probably an INTJ, she’s lovely just sometimes very very straight to the point, although I’ve decided people’s personalities are a lot more than 4 letters.