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Do women get more leeway being critical of the weight or appearance of other women?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) July 11th, 2014

The other day I was at the checkout line and while waiting I glossed over the magazines in the rack they always seem to have at the checkout, on the cover of one of them (a magazine geared towards women), they were talking about which female celeb had the best ”beach body”, and who had the worse. If it had been Maxim, Sports Illustrated, FHM, etc. it might have been seen as sexist, but since it is a women’s magazine commenting on other women, is it sexist as well or not so because it is women-on-women commenting, even if less than flattering?

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Unbroken's avatar

Unfortunately, among some, yes.

JLeslie's avatar

I don’t think it is ever ok when a magazine, or some sort of periodical, is being critical of a woman’s weight. However, I would say that women get more leeway than men in real life. If my mom notices someone gained weight I don’t think twice about it, but if my husband said it I might.

Blackberry's avatar

Nothing is more annoying or infuriating than listening to an unkempt, unattractive man put down women like he’s some Brad Pitt lol.

livelaughlove21's avatar

Probably. Women get more leeway saying anything about other women than men do.

@Blackberry said it best, but I think the same applies to women. When an overweight woman calls another woman fat, I immediately roll my eyes. Pot. Kettle. Black.

jca's avatar

When I’m with my girl friends, we don’t talk about other women’s weight. We do talk about how they dress, does she dress properly so she looks neat and put together or does she look like a slob. We don’t use the word “slob,” we say things like “she’s such a mess.”

dappled_leaves's avatar

If they’re only doing it about one of the sexes, and not the other, then yeah, it’s sexist. If a magazine is critiquing the bodies of both men and women, you could make a case for it not being sexist – but the reality is that they would probably use different language for each sex.

Magazines (whether they’re aimed at men or for women) love to tear women’s bodies apart. That’s why when someone produces an image like this it gets shared widely.

filmfann's avatar

If I wanted to make serious money right now, I would start a magazine that bashed Obama, and showed pictures about how awful Kim Kardashian looks in a swimsuit.
Lots of people just love that hate.

GloPro's avatar

My girlfriends and I speak candidly about each other’s weight… When asked. We talk about our own weight, or not weight, really, but proportions and body fat.

We don’t really talk about a stranger’s body unless it’s a particularly good one or unless we catch someone getting stuck in the phone booth or something. Then we laugh at them, because I don’t care who you are… That’s funny.

Coloma's avatar

Probably, but it doesn’t make it right.
Discussing other people, period, appearance or otherwise.is the least interesting to me of any possible conversational topics. I do not diss others for appearance only literacy.
Personally I think gossipy, snipey talk about others in any capacity is a bunch of crap.

Live and let live.

Remember what Eleanor Roosevelt said…

Small minds talk about other people
Mediocre minds talk about things and GREAT minds talk about IDEAS!

I have enjoyed being a relatively attractive woman but I cannot stand the stereotyped catty, gossipy, bitchy, female traits. Gah!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@JLeslie If my mom notices someone gained weight I don’t think twice about it, but if my husband said it I might.
Curious, why do you believe that is so? Why would you give your mother more slack, is it because she is your mother?

@livelaughlove21 When an overweight woman calls another woman fat, I immediately roll my eyes. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Maybe the one who is fat is calling the other woman fat because she looks it. For instance if a woman who is 5’10” at 120lb might think she is not as bulgy or looks as larger as a woman 5’ 3” at 175lb. The fact the taller woman may have her fat spread more evenly or less cellulite she may, in her mind, believe she looks or is better.

@dappled_leaves If a magazine is critiquing the bodies of both men and women, you could make a case for it not being sexist – but the reality is that they would probably use different language for each sex.
What if it is one of those quasi ”everyone” magazine with celebs featured in them? They seem to critique actresses more than actors, at least 3–1 from my guess; still not sexist, or somewhat?

JLeslie's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central It’s because I know my mother still would be willing to talk to the woman, be friends with the woman, and value her, her intelligence, and whatever fabulous qualities she possesses. My husband would not want to have sex with her, would probably not bother to talk to her unless somehow they were brought together by a mutual friend. It’s because men are so visual, and so sex oriented, and can be so dismissive of women. My husband overall is a great guy, but he still is just a little too concerned with the visual.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Wtf? In what universe is a 5’10” 120 lb woman overweight? That’s actually underweight. At that weight, she wouldn’t have a single bulge no matter how her weight was distributed.

JLeslie's avatar

Lawd, I missed that! @livelaughlove21 is right. 5’10” at 120 is stick thin. Looks like @Hypocrisy_Central answered his own question. Because men are asses all too often.

Unbroken's avatar

Lol @livelaughlove21 and @JLeslie I always forget how unrealistic @Hypocrisy_Central‘s height weight ratio. And his abhorrence and fascination with cellulite.

Sigh. Why answer a question about sexism from a sexist. He never actually waivers or alters his view. However the odd thing is he doesn’t seem to view himself sexist at all. A true believer.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ My bad, it was supposed to be 210lb; that should make the picture clearer.

Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Sooo, what’s your point?
We all learned in kindergarten that people come in various shapes, sizes and colors. I’ll take an intelligent 210 pound person over a svelte ignorant fuck any day of the week.

jca's avatar

As soon as I saw this question, I knew without looking who asked it.

Unbroken's avatar

My bad @Hypocrisy_Central I should have said someone who protrays himself repeatedly as sexist.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Unbroken My bad @Hypocrisy_Central I should have said someone who protrays himself repeatedly as sexist.
A magazine that publishes basically to women, but at least several times a year, (and nearly every time summer gets near) post photos, with eyes blacked out or heads cut off, of women they say have torn up beach/bikini bodies, next to those they say have hot/sexy beach/bikini bodies, faced not blacked out or cut off, would be acting sexist or not; their primary audience being women notwithstanding?

@jca As soon as I saw this question, I knew without looking who asked it.
Don’t worry, the question about should I name by boiled eggs before I eat them is coming, or maybe not ~~

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