Does a former coworker count as an employer when filling out a job application?

I certainly would. Demonstrates excellent out of the box critical thinking.

Hi Val. I think that a former colleague would be an excellent choice. Actually, a co-worker could be a stronger reference than an employer, because that person was in the trenches with you and really saw your day-to-day achievements. The relationship’s much more personal.

Yes, just tell them (the coworker) that you’re seeking a personal reference, not a professional one.

Presumably, they would be included in the category of “friends”, which you’ve stated are allowed. If the former co-worker is neither a relative nor an employer (or former employer), then yes, of course they can be included. Your instructions are pretty clear.

Thanks.

What types of things would be considered a personal reference vs a professional one?

I kinda don’t get why they wouldn’t want a reference from a former employer. The head of HR at my last job said she’d be a reference for me. You’d think they’d want that.

It may be that they don’t think they need a reference from a former employer, since they already have the contact information – they can call at will.

But I agree, a personal reference is all but useless. Obviously, you’ll put down people who will back you up. Or you’ll put down yourself, using several different accents. ;)

Val, I’ve been in the position of colleague-reference. A former co-worker – not someone subordinate to me, but a peer – asked me if she could use me as a reference. We got along well, I thought very highly of her, and I was happy to help. (Delighted, actually, because our mutual, former employer had treated her miserably.)

I recently helped a former boss get a job. :D She called me back and said that my referral nailed it for her. That was cool.

Personal reference, “She’s got a nice ass and she’s funny as hell.” WTH?

Co-workrers do count as references, and most employers know that.

But I wondered if it fell under the heading of “employer” which is forbidden. But, like someone said, my employer is public and they know how to get a hold of them.

No, a co-worker doesn’t count as an employer. The relationship is different, and the former co-worker isn’t verifying employment, they are giving personal reference.

I think it would be a good reference. Monday through Friday, we spend more awake time with our co workers than we do families.