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What is a libertarian?

Asked by trailsillustrated (16804points) September 16th, 2014

I am seeing postings about poor people in America expecting to have no responsibility and to be taken care of. This is on fb from a Christian in the Midwest . Is this a Libitarian?

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Pachy's avatar

This, according to Wikipedia.

johnpowell's avatar

Generally Libertarians here are for a minimal government and very little regulation. They pretty much want the government out of everything. They are actually closer to anarchist.

It is much more likely you are dealing with a pretty standard Republican. If you want to find out what they are ask how they feel about weed being illegal (or abortion). A true Libertarian will say weed shouldn’t be legislated and somebody getting a abortion is none of their damn business.

elbanditoroso's avatar

I’m not sure there is a fully agreed on definition. What @johnpowell writes is generally true, but calling ones self libertarian is a self-definition and not subject to official rules.

Basically, it’s like a religion. People can call themselves whatever they want and there’s no way to say what is actually right or wrong.

hominid's avatar

@johnpowell is right in that in the U.S., libertarian is synonymous with capital L Libertarian or the Libertarian Party, which seems to set its eyes on government, with no concern about private power. This is quite different from many historical uses of the term, likeBakunin’s libertarianism, which was used to described socialists who were opposed to state-socialism, for example.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Libertarians are basically selfish people who have no sense of societal responsibility or what it is to be a contributing part of society. Their main complaints have to do with paying taxes for services that hey don’t use, such as schools when they have no children in schools, health care when they are privately insured, etc. Their cover is their insistence for small government, their claim is that all large governments are corrupt and invasive. But this is all bullshit. Their philosophy is based on Social Darwinism, where only the strong should survive to improve the genetic makeup of man, therefore stronger societies, and by protraction, a stronger America.

For example, people who are too debilitated to earn their daily bread should starve and the gene pool is well rid of them. The elderly, or the mentally and physically ill who find themselves uninsured, good riddance. The elderly should have gotten up off their asses when they had a chance and built an economic cushion and self-insured. Now that it’s too late, they come to the government with a hand fulla gimme and a mouth fulla wanna. They had their chance just like the rest of us. Fuck ‘em. A public school system? Well, I suppose some people just weren’t meant to have an education. They don’t seem to want good highways, a working utility grid, or working sewers because they don’t want to pay taxes to support them. They are great proponents of privatization. One government program they will all support, however, is a strong military defense.

It’s interesting that the greater majority of the population identifying with this insanity is over fifty years of age and quite unable to live without many of te services they complain about supporting. Many couldn’t survive if there was no one to answer when they call 911. Their demographic shows them to be in the middle an lower middle income bracket, and the majority have never set foot in a university. Their latest political manifestation upon the American landscape is the Tea Party, the people who show up at local city council meetings armed with an AK-47 demanding the government stay out of their Medicare. They claim these demonstrations are to test whether or not the 2nd Amendment is alive and well. Who knows what the other thing is about.

Whenever I run across one, I always recommend that they visit a country like the one they envision for America, like Ghana, where there is no functioning government to speak of. Here, one can march off into the primal jungle and establish your very own domain free of pesky government interference. Ah, wilderness! You can even have a gun, if you want. Ad many guns as you wish. But you will soon have to fight others who may covet what you have and will surely try to privatize it. And you most definitely will have to fight for potable water and food—which is in adequate supply, but in the hands of the man with the most weapons. Yeah, do that at a time of your life when your beard is greying and every time you pull the trigger on your beloved gun you experience crippling arthritic hand pain. And good luck finding an internet hookup so you can get online and tell us all about your worldly paradise.

These people evidently don’t mind living in crowded environments where everybody is dependent on their own septic systems and leech lines. They evidently don’t mind the cholera, hepatitis, and typhoid epidemics that go with that level of community health—epidemics this country hasn’t experienced in more than a century and for good reason.

Libertarians, the American version anyway, are out of their fucking minds. And seriously, if there was no government to speak of? I’d be using the mutherfuckers ofr target practice.

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